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10-06-2005, 12:39 PM | #2 | ||
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Seems that the BA is starting to fade a little in sales. ALtho the AU was savaged and the BA lavishly praised, the Falc vs commy shares are now at almost AU levels.
And the less said about Fairlane and LTD the better Ford really have alot to think about over the next 12 months! |
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10-06-2005, 12:45 PM | #3 | |||
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10-06-2005, 06:21 PM | #4 | ||
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Great graphs there
Just as a comparison, Ford is kicking butt here in NZ where they are normally 3rd after Toyota & Holden. This year they have a substantial lead over Holden and are also leading Toyota : Calender Year Figures Ford 4486 Toyota 4331 Holden 3810 Some of this I believe is down to Territory _2: Ford has beaten Holden every month this year. |
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10-06-2005, 06:30 PM | #5 | ||
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i think the main problem is that the XRs and GTs are all very nice looking cars but the rest of the falcon, fairmont and fairlane range are very bland, i mean it even hard to tell the difference between these three sometimes.
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10-06-2005, 06:55 PM | #6 | |||
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11-06-2005, 01:12 AM | #7 | ||
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Buy a Ford Ute, we can win this part of the battle....
Ford deny that the Territory is costing Falcon sales, but the graph shows it is.. Thanks Russ, for a good quick detailed look at the lot..
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11-06-2005, 01:26 AM | #8 | ||
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Does anyone have the figures for each segment?
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11-06-2005, 01:10 PM | #9 | ||
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Light Segment
Vehicle Units Share Toyota Echo1499 20.02 Hyundai Getz1473 19.67 Holden Barina823 10.99 Honda Jazz766 10.23 Kia Rio726 9.69 Suzuki Swift610 8.14 Ford Fiesta410 5.47 Mazda2327 4.36 Mitsubishi Colt218 2.91 Toyota Prius128 1.71 Peugeot 206116 1.54 Daihatsu Sirion98 1.30 Daihatsu Charade82 1.09 Volkswagen Polo61 0.81 Citroen C355 0.73 Smart Forfour30 0.40 Renault Clio29 0.38 Citroen C216 0.21 Smart Fortwo13 0.17 Proton Satria4 0.05 Suzuki Ignis1 0.01 Small Segment Vehicle Units Share Toyota Echo1499 20.02 Hyundai Getz1473 19.67 Holden Barina823 10.99 Honda Jazz766 10.23 Kia Rio726 9.69 Suzuki Swift610 8.14 Ford Fiesta410 5.47 Mazda2327 4.36 Mitsubishi Colt218 2.91 Toyota Prius128 1.71 Peugeot 206116 1.54 Daihatsu Sirion98 1.30 Daihatsu Charade82 1.09 Volkswagen Polo61 0.81 Citroen C355 0.73 Smart Forfour30 0.40 Renault Clio29 0.38 Citroen C216 0.21 Smart Fortwo13 0.17 Proton Satria4 0.05 Suzuki Ignis1 0.01 Medium Segment Vehicle Units Share Toyota Camry (4 cyl)1868 44.33 Mazda61328 31.52 Subaru Liberty626 14.85 Holden Vectra (4 cyl)157 3.72 Chrysler PT Cruiser137 3.25 Hyundai Sonata (4 cyl)71 1.68 Renault Scenic26 0.61 Large Segment Vehicle Units Share Holden Commodore6451 47.63 Ford Falcon4530 33.45 Mitsubishi Magna V61008 7.44 Toyota Camry V6870 6.42 Toyota Avalon407 3.00 Kia Optima112 0.82 Hyundai Sonata V6101 0.74 Mitsubishi Verada63 0.46
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11-06-2005, 01:12 PM | #10 | ||
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Sports Segment
Vehicle Units Share Holden Monaro160 24.61 Hyundai Tiburon84 12.92 Holden Astra Convertible81 12.46 Honda Integra66 10.15 Mini Cooper Cabrio55 8.46 Peugeot 206 Convertible46 7.07 Peugeot 307 Convertible40 6.15 Renault Megane Convertible33 5.07 Toyota Celica21 3.23 Mazda MX519 2.92 VW Beetle Cabrio19 2.92 Daihatsu Copen9 1.38 Smart Roadster6 0.92 Citroen Xsara Coupe5 0.76 Toyota MR23 0.46 Alfa Romeo Spider2 0.30 Alfa Romeo GTV 2.01 0.15 Prestige Segment Vehicle Units Share Honda Accord1418 42.85 Nissan Maxima305 9.21 Holden Statesman277 8.37 Ford Fairlane200 6.04 BMW 1 Series178 5.37 Peugeot 407140 4.23 MINI Cooper110 3.32 Audi A3107 3.23 Mercedes-Benz A-Class93 2.81 Alfa Romeo 14786 2.59 Holden Vectra CDX85 2.56 Lexus IS20056 1.69 Citroen C543 1.29 Volkswagen New Beetle42 1.26 Volkswagen Bora29 0.87 Saab 9328 0.84 Alfa Romeo 156 2.026 0.78 Volvo S4026 0.78 Volvo V5025 0.75 Renault Laguna22 0.66 Volkswagen Passat11 0.33 Audi A4 2.01 0.03 Peugeot 4061 0.03 Luxury Segment Vehicle Units Share BMW 3-Series348 13.42 Mercedes-Benz C-Class309 11.91 Mercedes-Benz E-Class210 8.09 Audi A4190 7.32 BMW 5-Series143 5.51 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class111 4.28 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class96 3.70 Mazda RX890 3.47 Holden Caprice85 3.27 Lexus GS79 3.04 Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class73 2.81 M-Benz C-Class Sports Coupe72 2.77 Jaguar X-Type66 2.54 Nissan 350Z65 2.50 BMW 3-Series Coupe61 2.35 Saab 93 Convertible55 2.12 Porsche Boxster47 1.81 Audi A641 1.58 BMW 7-Series40 1.54 Porsche 91138 1.46 Lexus IS30033 1.27 Lexus ES30032 1.23 BMW 3-Series Convertible29 1.11 BMW Z421 0.80 Mercedes-Benz S-Class20 0.77 Volvo S6018 0.69 Alfa Romeo GT16 0.61 Saab 9516 0.61 Chrysler Crossfire15 0.57 Jaguar S-Type15 0.57 Audi TT14 0.53 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class14 0.53 Audi Convertible11 0.42 Bentley9 0.34 Ford LTD9 0.34 Lexus SC4308 0.30 Maserati8 0.30 Alfa Romeo 166 3.07 0.26 Audi A87 0.26 BMW 6-Series7 0.26 Lamborghini7 0.26 Audi A3 V66 0.23 Lexus LS6 0.23 Lotus Elise6 0.23 Mercedes-Benz CL-Class6 0.23 Aston Martin Coupe4 0.15 Honda S20004 0.15 Jaguar XJ SERIES4 0.15 Alfa Romeo 1562 0.07 Lotus Exige2 0.07 Volvo S802 0.07 Morgan1 0.03 Peugeot 6071 0.03 Rolls-Royce1 0.03
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11-06-2005, 01:12 PM | #11 | ||
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P/U & Crew Cab 4 x 2 Segment
Vehicle Units Share Ford Falcon Ute1572 21.90 Holden Utility 4X21509 21.02 Holden Rodeo 4X21406 19.59 Toyota Hilux 4X21160 16.16 Mitsubishi Triton 4X2600 8.36 Ford Courier 4X2388 5.40 Mazda B-Series 4X2353 4.91 Proton Jumbuck155 2.15 Nissan Navara 4X222 0.30 Ford F250 4X27 0.09 Ford F350 4X25 0.06 P/U & Crew Cab 4 x 4 Segment Vehicle Units Share Toyota Hilux 4X41501 26.72 Nissan Navara 4X4869 15.47 Holden Rodeo 4X4851 15.15 Mitsubishi Triton 4X4605 10.77 Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC574 10.22 Ford Courier 4X4385 6.85 Nissan Patrol PU/CC323 5.75 Mazda B-Series 4X4229 4.07 Ford F250 4X4179 3.18 Holden Utility 4X482 1.46 Land Rover Defender PU/CC10 0.17 Ford F350 4X46 0.10 Suzuki Carry 4X42 0.03 SUV Compact Segment Vehicle Units Share Nissan X-Trail1010 16.06 Toyota RAV4981 15.60 Subaru Forester936 14.89 Honda CR-V674 10.72 Subaru Outback598 9.51 Hyundai Tucson384 6.10 Mitsubishi Outlander342 5.44 Mazda Tribute324 5.15 Holden Cruze234 3.72 Ford Escape211 3.35 Kia Sportage201 3.19 Hyundai Santa Fe159 2.52 Suzuki Grand Vitara112 1.78 Daihatsu Terios66 1.04 Suzuki Jimny42 0.66 Land Rover Freelander12 0.19 Mitsubishi Pajero iO0 0.00 SUV Medium Segment Vehicle Units Share Ford Territory2154 35.76 Toyota Prado1335 22.16 Toyota Kluger607 10.07 Mitsubishi Pajero543 9.01 Hyundai Terracan373 6.19 Land Rover Discovery225 3.73 Holden Adventra184 3.05 Jeep Cherokee157 2.60 Kia Sorento145 2.40 Jeep Wrangler134 2.22 Suzuki XL-778 1.29 Mitsubishi Challenger42 0.69 Nissan Pathfinder29 0.48 Land Rover Defender S/Wgn15 0.24 Holden Jackaroo1 0.01 SUV Large Segment Vehicle Units Share Toyota Landcruiser Wagon971 55.29 Nissan Patrol Wagon740 42.14 Ford Explorer45 2.56 SUV Luxury Segment Vehicle Units Share BMW X5274 21.66 Lexus RX330187 14.78 Mercedes-Benz M-Class169 13.35 Volvo XC90120 9.48 Jeep Grand Cherokee112 8.85 Honda MDX89 7.03 BMW X385 6.71 Volvo XC7061 4.82 Porsche Cayenne50 3.95 Volkswagen Touareg41 3.24 Lexus LX47037 2.92 Audi Allroad20 1.58 Land Rover Range Rover20 1.58
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11-06-2005, 01:13 PM | #12 | ||
Bring back the Phase
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11-06-2005, 04:33 PM | #13 | ||
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good to see that more $300k+ mercs than LTDs are being sold
Back to the drawing board Ford. Fairmont/Fairlane/LTD = joke in comparison to competitors.
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11-06-2005, 04:58 PM | #14 | |||
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As I have mentioned many times before, the Territory has stolen many Falcon sales.
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11-06-2005, 09:05 PM | #15 | |||
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11-06-2005, 09:17 PM | #16 | ||
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LTD is behind Caprice by quite a bit. I agree with what some ppl have mentioned, the Territory is hurting sales. Of course, they are in the same showroom, and when ppl look at the Ford Falcon (the Futura in particular, and Fairmont i guess) the Territory looks like great value for the added space! I know when i was buying my car, i saw another Salesmen showing people the BA then move along to the Territory...
And as with the Fiesta... i think ford have to change their marketing plan! Its really obvious they could made at least 300 more sales a month.... but they are sticking to their target which was 400/month... however the new Swift has already outshot the Fiesta, without winning any awards, and with a smaller engine then the Fiesta (although, with ABS on the base model, which LX doesnt have). You only have to look at the Barina for this... they have no abs on base models as well, but are selling 400 more / month, even though the quality of their product isnt as good! But yea, Ford has to do more with advertising... that ad with the Fiesta, Territory, and BA in the showroom saying its Award winning i dont think does anything in my opinion... its all computer generated! Lift your game Ford! : Oh, and hopefully Ford have got it right with the NEW focus!!!! Marketing better be good.... we need the sales!
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11-06-2005, 09:51 PM | #17 | ||
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What the figures don't show is that Ford has been at or over 100% factory capacity for a long while, and it's now really model mix of Falcon, ute and Territory that can affect the sales figures.
More Territorys built = less Falcons built.
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