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Old 13-03-2008, 08:27 PM   #1
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Default WOW.. Ford '2.4 V8' powered Clubman?

The article mentions an awesome weapon if ever I saw one. Holden made something like this, don't know if they still do.

But what caugt my eye was the last line:

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There's more to come: Caterham says the RS Performance badge will sit alongside its established - and soon to be expanded - Ford-powered Seven range.
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Old 13-03-2008, 08:34 PM   #2
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Holden made something like this, don't know if they still do.
You mean the Elfin range? Elfin are an Australian company and power their cars with the 5.7/6.0L Holden (Chev) V8s.

How do Caterham get 300kw from a 2.4L engine, no matter how many cylinders it's got? It must rev to 15000rpm or something and be almost as cranky as a formula 1 for daily duties. I'll be interested in seeing some road tests, I'm sure they will pop up on Top Gear.
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Old 13-03-2008, 08:39 PM   #3
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You mean the Elfin range? Elfin are an Australian company and power their cars with the 5.7/6.0L Holden (Chev) V8s.
Yup, thats them. I remember they were powered by the 5.7's... and around 100 grand.

2.4 litre V8 lol... I can see the marketing spin now "Power of an 8 from the capacity of a 4"...
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Old 13-03-2008, 08:48 PM   #4
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Elfin are still going. They were at the Melbourne Motor Show with a couple of Chev V8 powered cars.

I was about to edit my post when my connection dropped out lol; but I was going to rewrite it to say how do they get 300kw from a 2.4L and still have it reliable with nice road manners. I mean F1 are powerful but I wouldnt want to use one of their engines everyday. But then I guess you wouldnt want to drive a Caterham everyday lol. More of a track day car.
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Old 16-03-2008, 05:11 PM   #5
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The V8 isn't a Ford engine. I've got a suspiscion thats it an engine out of an A1GP car, 2.4 litres, very light weight and revs to 10,000rpm. Who else has an engine of that capacity?

Some models of Caterham have 2.3 litre Ford Duratec 4 cylinders.
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Old 20-03-2008, 06:13 PM   #6
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This is surprising to me.

Caterham got a mileage recently with a show car turbo version of the Cosworth 2.3 four with veiled hints of a production version.

There was a 2600cc (?) V8 based on two Hayabusa top ends on a custom V8 block that was put in one of their wide body frames two or more years ago. I think that could be taken out to 3000cc with custom work. Small physical size, nice heads, high output and a bit more tractable than a bike engine.

The A1GP V8’s (and other engines that are used in similar series – e.g. Caparo) have a fair bit left in them. They are run in one make series where they aren’t chasing the absolute last rev or every absolute packaging or weight advantage like say F1 engines. Having said that I don’t imagine they would be that cheap either.
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Old 20-03-2008, 10:13 PM   #7
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Tom Walkinshaw recently bought Elfin. Not 100% sure of the details. From memory Mike Simcoe (guy who designed the Monaro) designed the Elfin Streamliner as well as the more 'naked' version for Elfin a few years ago. He also owns one.
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Old 20-03-2008, 11:31 PM   #8
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The V8 isn't a Ford engine. I've got a suspiscion thats it an engine out of an A1GP car, 2.4 litres, very light weight and revs to 10,000rpm. Who else has an engine of that capacity?

Some models of Caterham have 2.3 litre Ford Duratec 4 cylinders.
I'd suspect its a Powertec or Brammo V8 (Brammo makes 400hp at 10,000rpm, but its 2.8l, see specs here, Powertec powers the Radical SR8 that lapped the nurburgring in 6:55 and makes 360hp from 2.6l), It could even be the engine from the first version of the Caparo T1 (the 2.4 that made 470hp has been upped to 3.5l and 550hp in the T1 now)?
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Tom Walkinshaw recently bought Elfin.
How long before it goes belly up then.Are you sure he owns it, could be Skaife or the Kelly's. Who really knows!
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Old 20-03-2008, 11:50 PM   #10
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I'm fairly sure that engine has R1 Yamaha heads and billet crankcase ???
If so that would be why the rpm and power output !!!
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