Holden Sportswagon to Win COTY !

[csv8]

Its coming up to COTY time again. We all know WHEELS is heavily biased towards HOLDEN. Whats the odds the Sportswagon wins COTY and not the fantastic FG?

[Windsor220]

Isnt car of the year for the entire range? Sportswagon would be part of VE commodore.

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by csv8

Its coming up to COTY time again. We all know WHEELS is heavily biased towards HOLDEN. Whats the odds the Sportswagon wins COTY and not the fantastic FG?

Disagree that Wheels is biased, I know Im one of the few but I actually find it a good read.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by csv8

Its coming up to COTY time again. We all know WHEELS is heavily biased towards HOLDEN. Whats the odds the Sportswagon wins COTY and not the fantastic FG?

There's no hope the commodore hatch will win anything..

[Falc'man]

Originally Posted by csv8

Its coming up to COTY time again. We all know WHEELS is heavily biased towards HOLDEN. Whats the odds the Sportswagon wins COTY and not the fantastic FG?

The BA won COTY. The Territory also won COTY. They were, before FG, the last two models released by FordAU, and they both won. How is that biased towards Holden?

[homegrown]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

There's no hope the commodore hatch will win anything..

the "commodore hatch". thats hilarious. what a stupid commercial. the tailgate opens like a hood. honestly who puts themselves in a predicument where they've backed right up to a brick wall and need to throw a limited amount of shopping in the back.

[XR6_190]

Got the latest Wheels magazine in the mail today, VE wagon is not eligible due to the newness factor

[mongoloid]

Originally Posted by XR6_190

Got the latest Wheels magazine in the mail today, VE wagon is not eligible due to the newness factor

well there you go.

[Dave R]

Thread title seems a little too strong, especially based on speculation. I don't think the Sportswagon will win anything over the FG range. I didn't think the wagon was a contender anyway.

edit: It seems the wagon isn't a contender afterall.

[XR Martin]

What will let the FG down is the LPG versions.

[homegrown]

its not as tho holden can offer lpg. customers have been put on hold because they cant get them.

[SM1DY]

Originally Posted by Falc'man

The BA won COTY. The Territory also won COTY. They were, before FG, the last two models released by FordAU, and they both won. How is that biased towards Holden?

Look at the competition then....VY/Z

It would be embarrasing to award either of those car of the year.

[homegrown]

i may as well stop writing anyway my comments are too biased. i love fords too much.
crappy wagon.

[DoreSlamR]

Win or lose it will still go better :

[Gobes32]

Even if the wagon was a contender I still think the FG would win because its not a popularity contest but moreso what really is the BEST car released that year. I would be worried about the Accord Euro personally.

[Falc'man]

Originally Posted by SM1DY

Look at the competition then....VY/Z

It would be embarrasing to award either of those car of the year.

The VY wasn't eligible due to lack newness. Barring that, it wasn't the point I was making was it.

[XR6_190]

Originally Posted by SM1DY

Look at the competition then....VY/Z

It would be embarrasing to award either of those car of the year.

VY and BA weren't the only cars that were released in 2002, to be honest I wouldn't have at all been surprised or upset if the original Mazda 6 had of taken the gong. More than anything I would suggest that Wheels have a almost predictable habit of awarding the gong to whatever Holden Commodore/ Ford Falcon they can.

On the topic of the VE Hatch, I just don't get it, if you want a small wagon, get a small wagon (Mazda 6, Subaru Liberty etc) if you want a big wagon get a big wagon, I just think it's for people that want something but don't know what

[Fingers]

Originally Posted by XR6_190

More than anything I would suggest that Wheels have a almost predictable habit of awarding the gong to whatever Holden Commodore/ Ford Falcon they can.

Remember XD.... :

[mainyard]

I have to question the original posters motive behind even considering the VE wagon winning COTY, especially with the FG around :

I mean, COMEON!

I also enjoy Wheels mag, not as much as the last few years (theyve lost a few good writers) but Carey and Stahly always make a good read.


Mainyard

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by XR6_190

VY and BA weren't the only cars that were released in 2002, to be honest I wouldn't have at all been surprised or upset if the original Mazda 6 had of taken the gong. More than anything I would suggest that Wheels have a almost predictable habit of awarding the gong to whatever Holden Commodore/ Ford Falcon they can.

On the topic of the VE Hatch, I just don't get it, if you want a small wagon, get a small wagon (Mazda 6, Subaru Liberty etc) if you want a big wagon get a big wagon, I just think it's for people that want something but don't know what

Cars like that (Mazda) belong in the Royal Auto magazine.

[JC]

Too bad it's ineligible. It may just be marketing exercise "sportswagon", but Holden have to be congratulated for spicing up a rep-mobile. If Ford took the same lead, they'd actually use the fact that 95% of taxis are falcons.

[Swordsman88]

I don't think the sportwagon would even be elegible (not different enough - yes even the new body style). More imporantly, not really worth it just for the wagon version when many other new cars have been launched.

Whether you dislike wheels or not (and i actually think they aren't too bad all things considered) the fact is Ford has had a very good recent history with Wheels COTY.

From 2002-2007 (6 COTY) Ford has competed 4 times won twice (2002 BA 2004 Territory), and come in the top three (effectively equal runner up) twice (2nd Gen Focus 2005??, Mondeo 2007). This is much better than Holden or most other large manufacturers (Toyota etc.), most of which have had pretty poor results (cars ruled not worthy of testing or booted after the first round - i think every toyota except Aurion??). Holden did win with VE but virtually nill chance in any other area.

If you look at future prospects well FG has a real shot for 2008 and Fiesta (just missed out on euro coty by 1 point) another decent contender in 2009. I would say Mazda 3 and 6 (moreso the former IMO, latter good but hardly a massive improvement) are real shots, but most other cars the FG should be able to best......

Wheels COTY has a rigid and definite list of criteria and even the judges are sometimes surprised by the outcome using this system. In the final stage votes are counted but i think FG should get through to at least the top 3.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

Cars like that (Mazda) belong in the Royal Auto magazine.

The Mazda 6 is a good model and would be a good pick for a mid sized car. Also the MPS is quite a capable vehicle.

[icejagans]

don't rule out the honda accord euro either

[jaydee]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

There's no hope the commodore hatch will win anything..

Thats a bit harsh. When was the last time Ford made a good looking wagon? I'd say it was probably the XC with a chrome roof rack, wind deflector and an electric tail gate.
Since then they seem to have just put a flat slab on the back with a window. No thought into making the rear end look good.
Personally I love the look of these sportswagon, a bit 300c looking which I also like.

[snakeoil]

Recently spent some time in a Calais sports wagon and loved it.

Bloody good car

Cheers

[Bossxr8]

The VE wagon came close to last in the Carsguide COTY, so it would have been no match for the FG anyway.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by snakeoil

Recently spent some time in a Calais sports wagon and loved it.

Bloody good car

Cheers

You spent time in a Calais with a hatch back... unless you looked backward its just a Calais.