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26-08-2009, 06:00 PM | #1 | |||
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http://www.theage.com.au/national/ho...0825-ey4l.html
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But interesting that this writers opinion thinks GMH is the weakest. Also nice to see it mentioned that GMH is owned by GM and they went bankrupt. Is the message finally getting through to the media?
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26-08-2009, 06:05 PM | #2 | ||
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It's my understanding GMH will go under due to their parent company, looks like its coming out. Ford made the right desicion in making themselves financialy secure earlier.
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26-08-2009, 06:06 PM | #3 | ||
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Its an unfortunate thing. I personally don't really care, It doesn't effect me.
Don't forget the MY10 isn't the VF update, its a 'fill in the blanks' model, Holdens up a creek. That's for sure. So i ask again, how can a company sell over 3600 cars a month for a few years running still be broke?
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26-08-2009, 06:08 PM | #4 | |||
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Sorry for the people loosing their jobs but yet they (holden) paid 3mil for T8 race team if I worked there I would definately be looking for someone.......with a bat.
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26-08-2009, 06:10 PM | #5 | ||
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All this and yet they can still pour in the cash to the triple 8 team swap?????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? :
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26-08-2009, 06:13 PM | #6 | ||
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This has been on the cards for a while, been reported a few times. So nothing new.
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26-08-2009, 06:14 PM | #7 | ||
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I have been thinking they have been operating on borrowed time since the collapse of GM, and yes how can a company sell 3600 cars a month be in trouble - several ways - making very low profit margins and spending massive dollars on race car teams, or not selling that many cars at all somehow fudging the numbers. I think they will collapse and already have been given a government handout from krudd.
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26-08-2009, 06:25 PM | #8 | ||
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i'm not convinced its as gloomy as some make out. sure they are struggling and this is common knowledge. surely a business man like r.dane would know that hooking up with a manufacturer thats about to go belly up isn't very smart. i'd say they've either pulled the wool over his eyes and convinced him all is ok, or... he has seen enough evidence for himself to confidently affiliate himself with the brand.
if holden did go belly up, there would be a lot of smug looking ford people at a few race meets. in the real world, if holden do go belly up, its bad news for the aussie auto industry. parts suppliers are already struggling to survive and if a major buyer suddenly disappears, then the suppliers that are left will struggle to survive only supplying ford and toyota. also, no one needs to be out of work in the current climate. |
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26-08-2009, 06:33 PM | #9 | |||
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Heres a little more on the story.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...25761E001094C0 Quote:
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26-08-2009, 06:39 PM | #10 | ||
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Theyll be right, they can just dip into the 200 million govt lifeline...
I find the way Ford is being run in the States and in Oz really inspiring; securing its own financial independence, streamlining its operations and commiting itself to a strong product lineup. Whos the quiet achiever who shouldnt be underestimated? Ford, of course. |
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26-08-2009, 06:52 PM | #11 | ||
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If GMH goes under Ford will be right behind them. Lets all hope that doesn't happen. Good luck to all the employees at Holden who get chopped.
Australia doesn't need this sort of manufacturing problems.
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26-08-2009, 08:16 PM | #12 | ||
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Holden had no money to pay out redundancies recently for the 2nd shift in Elizabeth. How have they now suddenly found money to pay out these redundancies now.
Would they raid the governments $200 million? |
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26-08-2009, 08:29 PM | #13 | |||
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I do feel very sorry for any person who loses their job, no matter which company they're from. I hope Ford global can ride through these tough times and I do hope GM comes back, without them what incentive does Ford have?
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26-08-2009, 08:43 PM | #14 | |||
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I wonder how long Holden thinks that the employees can survive on only working and getting paid every second week. While management continues with their ludicrous salaries. |
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26-08-2009, 08:55 PM | #15 | |||
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26-08-2009, 10:31 PM | #16 | |||
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It's not likely either will go under soon, but if Holden did fold it's local manufacture it's more than likely Ford would follow suit, if only because there would be insufficient income for the outsource companies to survive. So far the companies collapsing because of the credit squeeze have generally been suprises, while those that have been red flagged have managed to battle through. My guess is that Holden would be the last man standing after a severe drought. |
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27-08-2009, 12:55 AM | #17 | ||
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Why does everyone think that because there may not be enough suppliers here in Australia in the advent of Holden going down that Ford will follow.
Ford will just get their supplies from China or other cheaper Asian countries. This is what they are waiting for because at the moment an Australian built car has to have a certain content of Australia manufactured parts in it. If there are no parts manufacturers left in Australia , this is perfect for Ford, they will say oh well we must get parts from overseas without any repecussions from the public or Government. |
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27-08-2009, 02:31 AM | #18 | |||
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The handout started after the button plan came into action, otherwise we would still have huge tariffs on imported cars.
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27-08-2009, 07:58 AM | #19 | ||
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But I thought with Cruze here now all is saved.
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27-08-2009, 08:41 AM | #20 | |||
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27-08-2009, 08:45 AM | #21 | ||||
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I'm not sure "everyone" thinks that, but many of us do. Quote:
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