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09-09-2010, 10:21 PM | #1 | ||
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Hi everyone,
My sister is dead set on buying a convertible that isn't a Ford The best one I can find with a budget of $12,500 is a Peugeot 206 CC (2003 models).. now I've heard they're hard to work on, but other then new car reviews I can't find much about them. Could anyone here please give their opinion, bias aside please (remembering alternatives are Holden Astra, Renault's etc.. lol) Or if anyone would suggest something better (must be hard top, mustn't be ancient, doesn't need power, must be available in auto) Thanks
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09-09-2010, 10:27 PM | #2 | ||
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My partners 206 has been virtually trouble free..
Few squeaks from the front end (which I promised to look at this weekend).. Manual gear shifter has got a bit of play, but it's done 200K now..(again, will have a look) Also, the clutch went on it at 180K, but, only the pressure plate (diaphram springs) let go, the friction plate was good for at least another 50-75K.. Over all, I'm going to give it a thumbs up.. ! It's a fun little car to drive too... but shhhhh I didn't say that.. Kris
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10-09-2010, 07:16 AM | #3 | ||
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Peugeots are fun cars to drive. They are designed for European conditions so are designed to stick to the road. I have a 307 Wagon and it is a great car.
The 206CC might suck a bit though as the back seats are useless unless the driver and front passenger are midgets, but I think that is an issue with most of the CC cars out there. (This is based on me checking out a 207CC at the dealer whilst waiting for the 307 to get serviced. The 206 might be different) The 206 is like most Peugeot cars of it's age. Prone to a few electric gremlins here and there, but apart from that, it would be a good, reliable car if it has been maintained properly. If you're looking for more information on Peugeot or French cars in general, check out Aussie Frogs
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10-09-2010, 07:28 AM | #4 | ||
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My daughter is after the same type of car, we have been looking at the 206 and 307 models. Was going to post the same question on here as well..............She is after an auto thou. The 206's are 1.6litre and the 307's are 2.0 litre and I think are a little bit bigger overall............other than that I don't know much about them either.............
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10-09-2010, 08:24 AM | #5 | ||
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I have owned a 206 GTi (2000 model) and a 206 GTi180 (2004 model), about 7 years in total and did a lot of kilometres in them.
The GTi was 2.0L about 135KW and had excellent down low torque especially for a small car with no turbo. The GTI180 was the same engine with better heads and variable valve timing for 180kw, it revved harder made a lot more top end power but that came at the expense of the low down torque and the incredible drivability of the 135kw edition. It was geared to suit the peaky output with a close ratio box that was brilliant for a spirited drive but at highway speeds was always spinning very fast because of it. I believe the CC was available with the 2.0L engine from the GTi (130KW) or the 1.6L from the standard 206 range. For a daily driver the 2.0L is the pick of the engines and is about as flexible as small car engines get. If you're going Auto I think the extra grunt would make it well worth while, but I can't remember if it was an option with the Auto or not. So look for a 2.0L CC and I doubt you will be disappointed. As will all cars If properly maintained they are good reliable cars, most common problems I had were related to poor quality fuel, Premium unleaded is a must, and availability of premium unleaded is much better now than it was in 2000 especially in rural areas even if it is more expensive than it was then. With any car this age though your major concerns will be the Auto, and any electrical gremlins which can be hard and expensive to fix. I however doubt Peugeots are any worse or better when it comes to troubleshooting and repairing these sorts of things than most other Europeans in this class though. I never had any major delays with parts availability, and for most of the common models I don't believe this is a huge issue. One tip though if you're buying one with factory mags look for mags with removable centre caps. As often the factory 4 stud mag wheels don't have a removable centre cap. So when it comes time for new tires or if you damage one and need a repair in a hurry, your options can be very limited as to who balances the wheels as not to many tire services have a machine which can balance a 4 stud rim without a removable centre cap, and if they do they often don't like putting the adapters on for 1 wheel, especially when they are busy. I found I had to drive to Newcastle or Tamworth which I can assure you when you live roughly in the in the middle of those two it can make getting a wheel balanced quiet an ordeal! That's just my thoughts for what they are worth.
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10-09-2010, 08:37 AM | #6 | ||
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180kW 206 gti ? That would be some car .. It is more like 180hp.
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10-09-2010, 09:11 AM | #7 | ||
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An ex of mine had one. had it since new, no issues at all and she did a ton of miles in it.
But please put in premium unleaded in it and service it at regular intervals. The back seat is useless, but therein lies a good thing - her friends will most likely not bug her all the time to give them lifts as they cannot fit!
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10-09-2010, 06:51 PM | #9 | ||
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Bad luck on her not getting a Ford, and 206 aint to bad, oh and had to change the wypers on one today, good luck with that!
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10-09-2010, 07:23 PM | #10 | ||
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Alright good, sounds like it's probably the way to go.
My brother went and inspected one for her tonight, in Sydney. He said he noticed the automatic seemed not as smooth as his 95 EF with 187,000 k's, reckon this is normal? Or does every1 here drive the manual one (the way things should be driven ) Also, I attached a video of the engine sound, he described it as sounding a bit (diesel like), and it's hard having never heard one before, knowing whats normal. Also a tiny bit of oil was leaking out of the tappet cover (was also mentioned in last service, but not fixed). LINK TO VIDEO: http://s671.photobucket.com/albums/v...rent=206CC.mp4
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E.g. This thread mentions the engine sounding a bit agricultural and also has comments on the auto. http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76105
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10-09-2010, 08:50 PM | #14 | ||
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The CC tend to creak around the windows with the roof up. Thats about it. Trim can get abit tatty and cheap looking, and the seat bolsters have a habit of collapsing but mechanically never seen one with much trouble. The carpets are crap to vacuum aswell and hold on tight to dirt, sand and grass.
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10-09-2010, 09:04 PM | #15 | ||
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Guys you'd think I was biased, but the 206 is a great car. look I've had no issues with my Frenchie at all and its 4 years old nearly now. I'd reccommend it.
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10-09-2010, 09:44 PM | #16 | ||
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had one for a week back in the uk.
absolutely hated it. plastic, uninspiring drive, squeaked, rattled and rolled! Was glad to give it back and wouldn't touch one with anyone elses barge pole! |
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10-09-2010, 09:50 PM | #17 | ||
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15-09-2010, 03:47 PM | #19 | ||
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http://www.pickles.com.au/cars/vehic...otid-202140796 Picked this up at the Auctions today for $5000.00 for the daughter. The bum needs a little fixing but low ks and a manual
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