P Plate Company car.

[cartaa100]

if i get the car it will come out of my package for 3 years id rather a car that i want off my ps then pratically the same as my fg xr6 if you guys no what i mean, i dont have to get it but it will be cheaper having a company car than my own, just dont want the same car

dont get me wrong i would obvisously prefer a g6et for personal enjoyment, who wouldnt?

i get off my ps in abit over a year

[Warrenk]

Are you sure there is no age restrication as well. In Queensland( I think), regardless how long you have had you license you cannot drive a V8 or turbo car until you are over 25. If you don't get your licence until you are around or after you are 25 there is a time limit until you can drive the V8 or Turbo.

[nickdl]

The whole law is a bit stupid really. People can't drive a GTi Golf but they can drive the R32 because it's an N/A V6. Nor can you drive a LandCruiser. Why don't they allow V8s and turbos but only if they have stability control and/or curtain airbags? It would certainly help to encourage people into safer new cars.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Go for a G6E... The new FG2 comes with some great standard features..

You do not need a turbo!!

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by nickdl

The whole law is a bit stupid really. People can't drive a GTi Golf but they can drive the R32 because it's an N/A V6. Nor can you drive a LandCruiser. Why don't they allow V8s and turbos but only if they have stability control and/or curtain airbags? It would certainly help to encourage people into safer new cars.

You can moan all you want, trouble is the under 25s have done it to themselves and given enough ammo to the pollies to restrict what they drive.

A large percentage of fatalities are under 25s who seem to think they have impressive driving skills and are bullet proof, but alas they arent.

[lockieoc]

Originally Posted by nickdl

The whole law is a bit stupid really. People can't drive a GTi Golf but they can drive the R32 because it's an N/A V6. Nor can you drive a LandCruiser. Why don't they allow V8s and turbos but only if they have stability control and/or curtain airbags? It would certainly help to encourage people into safer new cars.

Haha, believe me I presented all the facts and figures to the RTA being that the GTi slower than a falcon, commodore and a Toyota aurion based on power to weight and it all fell on deaf ears. They prefer the stick your head in the sand approach.

[drew`SEVNT5]

Originally Posted by cartaa100

if i get the car it will come out of my package for 3 years id rather a car that i want off my ps then pratically the same as my fg xr6 if you guys no what i mean, i dont have to get it but it will be cheaper having a company car than my own, just dont want the same car

dont get me wrong i would obvisously prefer a g6et for personal enjoyment, who wouldnt?

i get off my ps in abit over a year

You have a snowflakes chance in hell of getting the exemption.

1. Car has not been bought yet, so no "oh, it is the only work car I can drive"
2. Every other car in the fleet would have to be 'P-Plate banned' as the XR6T/G6ET, otherwise they will ask why you can't drive that.
3. If this is a car that you buy with a car allowance, you will defiantly be ***** out of luck, because last time I checked, you don't need a turbo to carry 3-4 passengers.
4. You already own a car, so the question would be asked why don't you drive that, and get work to pay for it.

Do you time, stop being so impatient. Down here in Vic, I had to abide by the 125kw and/or 3.5L per 1,000kg restriction. I dealt with it. Waited till I was 22 to get my XR6T.

[devilcv8]

Originally Posted by d.jaime.v

you can get an excemption if its for work purposes but you are only eligble to drive it to and from work and/or working hours

Not in nsw. The exemption is either approved or it's not. There is no half assed approach.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by lockieoc

Haha, believe me I presented all the facts and figures to the RTA being that the GTi slower than a falcon, commodore and a Toyota aurion based on power to weight and it all fell on deaf ears. They prefer the stick your head in the sand approach.

No they prefer the "not stick you in a box in the ground" approach.

The judging parameters are partially experience and partially attitude.
Your time driving fails one while the fact that you will try anything to get around the law fails the other.

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by cartaa100

if i get the car it will come out of my package for 3 years id rather a car that i want off my ps then pratically the same as my fg xr6 if you guys no what i mean, i dont have to get it but it will be cheaper having a company car than my own, just dont want the same car

dont get me wrong i would obvisously prefer a g6et for personal enjoyment, who wouldnt?

i get off my ps in abit over a year

Keep the XR6 until you get off your P's and then get the company car in that case.

[svo supporter]

Modern N/A 4 bangers come from the factory with more willawasps that 70's era V8's. But the gov't coffers can't grasp that concept.

It's all about driver ability and unfortunately alot of young people don't have the ability to handle cars even though they think they atually can. Hence the reason why the younger generation are involved in more accidents than the older generation.

It doesn't matter whether you've got 60 airbags in the car, or a 50 point roll cage. If you can't handle a car properly, you're going to get seriously hurt or killed by being a goose behind the wheel.

Sorry for going off topic. For the thread proper. Why not ask the lawyers themselves whether they'll try for the exemption? Surely if there is a loophole (which I doubt), they'll find it and grant your wish.

[Gobes32]

Best bet is to get your work to pay for your current vehicle and wait the next twelve months out.

I must admit, it is ironic seeing the holier than thou attitudes diplayed by some members especially after reading what half of you got up to when you were younger.

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Why not just get a G6E? No need for an XR6T or G6ET, seems you only want it for your own benefit.

seconded.

[stevanford]

Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5

Do you time, stop being so impatient. Down here in Vic, I had to abide by the 125kw and/or 3.5L per 1,000kg restriction. I dealt with it. Waited till I was 22 to get my XR6T.

x1000

I had to wait until I got off my Ps to get a G6ET. I only got one two weeks ago and I'm 23.

[lockieoc]

Originally Posted by flappist

No they prefer the "not stick you in a box in the ground" approach.

The judging parameters are partially experience and partially attitude.
Your time driving fails one while the fact that you will try anything to get around the law fails the other.

I actually inquired about the GTi to see if it would be illegible for the moderate performance vehicle exemption based on the facts I presented.

They knocked me back... well actually they stopped replying to my emails.
I'm not fussed, I was only looking for a nice daily runner.

[Ben73]

I'm another who says wait it out.
I waited to get off my P's to get my v8. But I have it now and I am happy. Worth the wait.

I think the rule is ******** because you cannot drive a v8 Land Cruiser. Its a V8 but its slower then most 6 cylinder sedans.

[flappist]

The V8/turbo rule exists because these are they type of vehicles that the majority of P platers who are "car enthusiasts" want to drive "enthusiasticly".

These are also the vehicles that are easiest to modify to extreme power outputs.

All the screaming and yelling comes from a small group of P platers most of whom want a powerful car so thay can play in it.

In the real world anyone, myself included, who says they drive a V8, turbo or any other performance vehicle "to tow the van" and not to play is just lying.

The difference between an open and P plater is that the open driver has 3 years actual road experience and is more likely to see a problem coming and avoid it or at least recover from it.

I have been to many track and skid pan days and have yet to see a P plater who was even remotely good at controlling their car in adverse situations. I am sure thay are out there but I am also sure that most who think they can but have not actually done it are in for a big fright.

Yes some V8s and turbos are not particularly potent and probably could be driven by P platers but if, for example, 253 Commodores were exempt there would be a huge scream from EXACTLY the same group that some Ford V8 should be and then 308s & 302s and it would go on for ever.

The rules are there for everyone. Exemptions are for actual needs not personal wants and nobody is "special".

[FPVGT500]

These laws are stupid any car can be taken to 150+ these days and wrap a pole, why cant we take the risk and drive high powered and its our tough luck if we die in them or not, like a diahatsu charade is any safer or other matchboxes out there, cars should be based on safety ratings for P platers.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by FPVGT500

These laws are stupid any car can be taken to 150+ these days and wrap a pole, why cant we take the risk and drive high powered and its our tough luck if we die in them or not, like a diahatsu charade is any safer or other matchboxes out there, cars should be based on safety ratings for P platers.

ME, ME, ME, it is all about ME......you can drive any V8 or turbo you like....just not on the public roads where OTHER people may be killed when you die in them or not.......

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by FPVGT500

These laws are stupid any car can be taken to 150+ these days and wrap a pole, why cant we take the risk and drive high powered and its our tough luck if we die in them or not, like a diahatsu charade is any safer or other matchboxes out there, cars should be based on safety ratings for P platers.

So its ok for you to plow right into another family in their car? Now i know it can happen in any car.
But going from your post you are ineligible to drive a Turbo/V8 then yeah? If so deal with it FFS.

[rvsm]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

I must admit, it is ironic seeing the holier than thou attitudes diplayed by some members especially after reading what half of you got up to when you were younger.

agreed.

[FPVGT500]

Like you said it can happen with any car, not trying to promote crazy driving on the roads i still reckon some P platers are not old enough to have their licence seeing the way they drive, there is still a small minority of us that suffer from these rules again its probably best to keep us away from such cars until the REAL idiots actually grow up.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by rvsm

agreed.

Did I get up some silly stuff....yes I did.

Was I hurt or killed....No.

Were people I know hurt or killed....YEP.

The difference was that the V8s would do maybe 160km/h and no one could afford them. My car (Kingswood) did maybe 130km/h flat out.

Back then I thought I was the most amazing driver in the world as did all my mates and surprisingly my old man and others disagreed and tried to keep me safe.

It was not until years later that I realised just how bad my friends and I were and how the "oldies" were actually right.

There is no way in the world that any P platers on here would even remotely entertain the idea that they are not amazing above average drivers who are in total control in any situation....and it is that attitude that is the key to the problem.

You want to find out just how good you really are?

Do a few track, skid pan and motokana days and see where you finish......

[DJM83]

I think we may have worked out why its not a good idea, if you want to know go to the RTA.