UK reliability list

[HSVKILLA]

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Good look for Ford over there,just look at some of the manufacturers it topped.

[DJM83]

look at some of the ones at the bottom. Looks good for Ford aswell, i also searched my car.

[csv8]

Suprised Kia is ahead of Hyundai, when they are basically the same car ???

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by csv8

Suprised Kia is ahead of Hyundai, when they are basically the same car ???

Two completely different companies that just both happen to be in Korea...


No great surprise that Honda and Suzuki would be at the top of the list...Honda truly have thier ***** together when it comes to reliability...

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Two completely different companies that just both happen to be in Korea...

Where one is owned by the other and use the same powertrains, electronics and vehicle platforms.

[mik]

rather interesting that the quite expensive motor cars bottom half of the page are the least reliable.

[GT-E]

The biggest surprise for me was Porsche being in 34th place. That is very poor from a company selling $200k+ cars. There must be some systemic quality problem for a car company to be rated so badly.

[mik]

yeah just goes to prove buying expensive is no guarantee you won`t be standing on the side of the road at some stage waiting for a tilt tray.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by GT-E

The biggest surprise for me was Porsche being in 34th place. That is very poor from a company selling $200k+ cars. There must be some systemic quality problem for a car company to be rated so badly.

Really suprised me as a lot of previous quality results i've seen, including the JD Power ones, has Porsche near the top.

Regarding the higher priced brands being near the bottom, is it a case of higher complexity of their products, or customers expecting more from their purchase than someone who paid considerably less for their car from the cheaper brands.

[smoo]

Originally Posted by GT-E

The biggest surprise for me was Porsche being in 34th place. That is very poor from a company selling $200k+ cars. There must be some systemic quality problem for a car company to be rated so badly.

Last year, the 911 was awarded the most reliable model in one of the US surveys. Go figure, you'd be better off trusting a politician than these inconsistent surveys.

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by smoo

Last year, the 911 was awarded the most reliable model in one of the US surveys. Go figure, you'd be better off trusting a politician than these inconsistent surveys.

You need to look at who they were surveying. The UK one, I understand, comes from statistics of warranty providers and (I think) the repair industry. It's not one of those surveys where the whimsical public gets to have a throwaway whinge - the input is a bit more professional.

I remember a rare Australian industry one released a few years ago found that the warranty/repair industry rated VWs poorly on reliability but the owners were generally satisfied - it was commented that owners didn't want to admit that their "quality" European purchase was problematic!

I can't imagine the average Porsche owner admitting their car was a dud!

[Chopped]

Maybe the more you spend the more you expect / therefore the more chance for disappointment.......

[Stefan]

Like most things from the UK, what a useless comparison.

If you notice the score is derived by a function of the frequency of the failure and the COST of repair. So the top cars are all cheap cars, not necessarily becauase they are more reliable but becauser they are cheap to repair.

I'd prefer to know which car is more likely to leave me standing on the side of the road. I think I can gather that if I drive a Porsche, BMW, Merc it may be more expensive to fix than a Kia or Hyundai.

[csv8]

Didn't someone post that it is $34k to replace a Rolls Royce headlight??

[mik]

Originally Posted by Chopped

Maybe the more you spend the more you expect / therefore the more chance for disappointment.......

don`t think so , a lot of it is the law of averages, the more gadgets and complex the machinery the more likely to have problems, look at these dsg gearboxes in many different brands, not to mention electronic woes that plague many modern cars.

[Chopped]

Originally Posted by mik

don`t think so , a lot of it is the law of averages, the more gadgets and complex the machinery the more likely to have problems, look at these dsg gearboxes in many different brands, not to mention electronic woes that plague many modern cars.

Good point

[Stefan]

Well this is it.

Hypothetically the Roller blows a headlight once a year that costs 34K to replace but the kia blows a head gasket three times a year that costs say 1,500 to repair, by virtue of the flawed scoring system the Kia is rated more reliable than the Roller Ridiculous.