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21-12-2012, 11:11 PM | #1 | ||
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Hey guys ok so after some more thinking, i was gonna stay with the pinto engine in my td cortina but im thinkin of going a 250 crossflow. First question is if anyone has or knows the "new law" ive been hearing that states that u cant do engine conversion if the car didnt come out with that engine from the factory?
Second Q 250 crossflow, 200 crossflow, 250 pre or 200 pre? Opinions? Third q ------- i pulled a 4 sp. box out of a mk4 wagon for the pinto, by the looks of it everything is quite well very similar in the mk3s to 4s. Is it/ would it be easier/possible to pick one of those up in a 6 cylinder and transfer the driveline suspension brakes and everything and just bolt it up to my td mk3 cortina? Has anyone done a 250 crossflow conversion from a pinto td? Lastly does anyone know anyone around sunny coast qld ish maybe brisbane maybe up north a bit who is selling a 250 crossflow cortina either mk3/4 that has a crap body and costs not too much? Thanks guys and i apologize for my bad/ rude grammar im about to fall asleep crap gotta brush my teeeeeth Night and merry christmas and thanks in advance for your replies!!!! |
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27-12-2012, 01:11 PM | #2 | ||
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Anyone?
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29-12-2012, 03:32 PM | #3 | ||
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Hi
The laws would require the vehicle to meet emission stds for which ever is newer, the body or the engine The vehicle would require full swap with 6cl drive lines to be correct As to engine I would go late model 4.1 alloy head cross flow, with weber carb, by all stds a very good engine, T5 5 speed I have blue slipped a RS2000 this year and it had to pass emission test complete with twin 44idf down draft webers, ( factory option), the inspector took note on charcoal canister, Pcv set up and idle co reading Hope that helps
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29-12-2012, 09:43 PM | #4 | ||
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I dont think its just a bolt in swap(could be wrong... have been before ) pretty sure Ford added metal in the right places to strengthen the shell to handle the extra weight and power of the 200/250.
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07-01-2013, 01:01 AM | #5 | |||
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The law pertains to fitting engines that were not offered in that model. IE. fitting a V8, since the Cortina was available as a 6 then it will be legal. And as stated you will need to retain or use the pollution controls off either the car(if an older engine is fitted) or the Donor car(if newer engine is fitted) I'd go for an Alloy head 4.1 from a series II XE or an XF, they had the weber carb and the larger valves. don't waste your money on a 3.3(200ci), the power difference is quite noticeable as I converted 2 x 3.3L to 4.1L. I don't know why anyone would bother with the 3.3L Now if you are fitting an engine from a Falcon you will need to do two things, 1/ drill a new dipstick hole(there is a place on the block for it to go and you need to have the sump off) 2/ change the oil sump as the Cortina is different(so drilling the new dipstick hole isn't the only reason to remove the sump) As far as I am aware the 4cyl and 6 cyl was the same body as there were plenty that were converted. But the 6 had heavier suspension/front crossmember(obviously), brakes and falcon running gear, larger crossflow radiator, and humped bonnet to clear the aircleaner and the firewall or firewall mounted bits are different to clear the rear of the longer engine etc. they also used the 4cyl engine mounts on the 6 and hard launched will see you denting the bonnet with the air cleaner bolt as the left(?) one lets go and the engine tries to exit through the bonnet(I had 3 Cortine 6 and they all had these dents)
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08-01-2013, 12:49 PM | #6 | ||
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K cheers guys, so is this to say that i can't put a zetec into an mk1 cortina? Or is it more related to the amount of cylinders it initially came out with. And is it (mk1) restricted to the 1600 n 1500s etc? Sorry for change of topic/car but just bought a couple of mk1s and would love to put either a zetec or pinto.
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19-01-2013, 05:48 PM | #7 | |||
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It has more to do with engine capacity, so if you put a larger 4cyl into a 4cyl than you need to check how much bigger in capacity you can go The later Cortinas came out as either a 4 or 6 so the largest engine you could fit without hassle was the 4.1L 6cyl So for the Mk1 you need to find out the largest engine that could be optioned, then find out how much bigger in capacity you can go above that.
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19-01-2013, 08:25 PM | #8 | ||
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I think 3.6l is the maximum for mk1s.
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19-01-2013, 10:17 PM | #9 | ||
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I thought Mk1 Cortinas were 1500 pre-crossflow, with only a few Lotus Cortinas (1500 or 1600cc).
With that in mind, your quoted 3600cc = 240% of the original 1500cc. That would seem excessive as I had a vague notion you were limited to about 40% more capacity of largest motor, and ACT has a clause about original body weight as well. What do the regulations say for your state? |
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24-01-2013, 12:30 AM | #10 | ||
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Cool thanks guys i guess ill just have to search and ask around a bit more to get the finer details. Thanks heaps for the meantime!!!
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24-01-2013, 01:49 AM | #11 | ||
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The heaviest Mk1 was the 1500 4dr GT at 868kg, going by VBS14(LA1 table) its the weight times 3 for a N/A motor or 2.5 for forced induction or 2604cc and 2170cc... plenty of "big blocks" available, hell even a old 2.6 sigma drivetrain would go well for very cheap bucks.
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