Prelim March 2013 sales figures - Page 7

flooded one · 07-04-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

Just to break up this pointless argument:

I know the FG bootlocks are made in Korea, I just wonder how much Ford Australia is relying on Korean parts supporting local production?

that will be rather interesting too see what will happen with Korean parts. hopefully ford wont be too badly affected and can source parts elsewhere?? Ford Australia(well all our Australian manufactures) needs all the sales they can get and delays like that wont help too much.

flappist · 07-04-2013, 09:40 PM

The topic is March 2013 sales figures.

As there were no entries for Daewoo that brand whether it exists or not will be off topic.

Keep it on topic please.

flooded one · 07-04-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Just wondering, any rumours of any new locally made variants this year. Just curious if there will be any new releases like XR8, Territory Sports/RTV etc?

If RTV comes back I hope it sells really well. I love the falcon ute!!! I'll cry the day it gets axed!!

1TUFFUTE · 08-04-2013, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MrZ

Right, and I'm sure the fact that the i30 is half the price had nothing to do with his decision.

(actually I think it is the i35

) and he optioned ALL the crap like plastic mags and panoramic roof and so on, trying to get it looking half as sexy as the fg(as he put it) and there was only 6ish grand between them. Something he was prepared to pay so he could at least fit the family in the car

His wife tells me he hates us coming over...because he hates seeing our G6 and reminding him what he shoulda bought. Looser

Now hes stuck with two new small soccer mum cars and nothing to light up the day. Because that's what comfy powerfull cars do you know

Pepscobra · 08-04-2013, 01:23 AM

Has there been a mention from Ford of a return of the RTV??
Or was this just an off the cuff rumour?

jpd80 · 08-04-2013, 03:54 PM

Over 1,000 Territory sales is still proof that people are sticking with the big Ford in tough times.
Hopefully, those EcoLPI supply problems will be over this month and we wlli see some better sales figures.

I feel for Holden at this time, their fans weren't expecting the news just through.....

MrZ · 08-04-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepscobra

Has there been a mention from Ford of a return of the RTV??
Or was this just an off the cuff rumour?

This can't be a serious question.

MickyStylez · 10-04-2013, 06:35 PM

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jpd80 · 10-04-2013, 06:42 PM

If Ford finally gets rolling with EcoLPI production, I have a feeling that Falcon
sales will be back over 1,000 and Ute could be closer to 500 as well.

I wonder if Ford would ever consider putting Ecoboost in the RWD Territory,
a 9 l/100 km petrol SUV might offer a bit of competition in the petrol SUV
market, maybe work better than Ecoboost Falcon..

phillyc · 10-04-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

If Ford finally gets rolling with EcoLPI production, I have a feeling that Falcon
sales will be back over 1,000 and Ute could be closer to 500 as well.

I wonder if Ford would ever consider putting Ecoboost in the RWD Territory,
a 9 l/100 km petrol SUV might offer a bit of competition in the petrol SUV
market, maybe work better than Ecoboost Falcon..

Yeah, i'd love to see the Ecoboost in Territory and the diesel in the Falcon (especially the Ute).

Territory currently gets 10.6L/100km in RWD petrol & 8.2L/100km in RWD diesel. Incidentally and for comparison the 2012 Toyota Kluger is rated at 11.0L/100km.
Falcon sedan gets 9.9L/100km in petrol (4.0) and 8.1L/100km in Ecoboost petrol.
Falcon Ute gets 10.7L/100km in petrol (4.0).

So, a 9L/100km result from an Ecoboost Territory is achievable. Yep, it definitely provide strong competition to others in the market.

IMO Falcon sedan could get 7.5L/100km in diesel. Falcon Ute probably 8.0L/100km in diesel form. Importantly, having diesel in Falcon Ute would open the way to more tradies/fleets hearts and wallets.

jpd80 · 10-04-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by phillyc

Yeah, i'd love to see the Ecoboost in Territory and the diesel in the Falcon (especially the Ute).

Territory currently gets 10.6L/100km in RWD petrol & 8.2L/100km in RWD diesel. Incidentally and for comparison the 2012 Toyota Kluger is rated at 11.0L/100km.
Falcon sedan gets 9.9L/100km in petrol (4.0) and 8.1L/100km in Ecoboost petrol.
Falcon Ute gets 10.7L/100km in petrol (4.0).

So, a 9L/100km result from an Ecoboost Territory is achievable. Yep, it definitely provide strong competition to others in the market.

IMO Falcon sedan could get 7.5L/100km in diesel. Falcon Ute probably 8.0L/100km in diesel form. Importantly, having diesel in Falcon Ute would open the way to more tradies/fleets hearts and wallets.

Good thoughts Phil,
The only problem is that these days, Ford has no room to move,
every product decision costs money to develop
and I wouldn't really blame them for being gun shy after the very
poor response / lack if commitment on on Ecoboost Falcon

I don't have the answers to these types of questions and I'm pretty
certain that Ford doesn't either and that's why there's no diesel Falcon

I know that Flappist mentioned something rather interesting recently
with regards to some buyer views of a diesel Falcon (Ute?)...

**russellw** · 13-04-2013, 06:44 PM

Sorry that it's a bit late but the graphical stats are now uploaded into the Tech Portal.

Cheers
Russ

jpd80 · 13-04-2013, 08:02 PM

Cheers Russell,
I'm sure that everyone here appreciates the time and effort you put into presenting monthly data...

BDA074 · 13-04-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Cheers Russell,
I'm sure that everyone here appreciates the time and effort you put into presenting monthly data...

+1 I look for this every month. Thanks Russell...

flooded one · 13-04-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA074

+1 I look for this every month. Thanks Russell...

+2 I enjoy reading it. better then the other news articles on car sales for the month. I also like knowing how many falcon utes get sold every month!!

**russellw** · 15-04-2013, 06:28 PM

I've added both the Supplementary Sales Statistics and the First Quarter Segment Review / Summary to the Tech Portal now.

Cheers
Russ

Nikked · 15-04-2013, 10:50 PM

Yep...I think i'll continue to avoid these threads and just view the data...

Joe5619 · 16-04-2013, 07:48 AM

Nissan has done well this year. I can't believe they are only 1000 units away from 3rd place. Good job!!

MrZ · 16-04-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by russellw

I've added both the Supplementary Sales Statistics and the First Quarter Segment Review / Summary to the Tech Portal now.

Cheers
Russ

Hi Russ, thanks for the figures. Do you have separate figures for Barina and Spark? I'm not sure why you combine these figures, as these are completely separate models.

Just a few minor corrections regarding images as well. In the SUV compact segment, you show a picture of a Santa Fe - I think it should be an ix35. Your photo of the Chrysler 300C is the old model. It's now known simply as the "300", by the way. In the large SUV segment, you state the Patrol sold 88. I think you left off a 0 - it should be 880.

Your photo of the Camry is also the old model.

**russellw** · 16-04-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MrZ

Hi Russ, thanks for the figures. Do you have separate figures for Barina and Spark? I'm not sure why you combine these figures, as these are completely separate models.

I combine them because they are in the same segment and I don't actually care about them. If you want separate figures I'm sure one of the Holden sites will have plenty.

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Just a few minor corrections regarding images as well. In the SUV compact segment, you show a picture of a Santa Fe - I think it should be an ix35. Your photo of the Chrysler 300C is the old model. It's now known simply as the "300", by the way. In the large SUV segment, you state the Patrol sold 88. I think you left off a 0 - it should be 880.

Your photo of the Camry is also the old model.

Problem solved - I've removed the pictures given that they were only there as a guide for those who weren't familiar with the non Ford models but it isn't worth the grief of maintaining a library of current images for the benefit of the pedants amongst us.

I've amended the Patrol numbers and replaced the first graph in that series.

Russ

MrZ · 16-04-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by russellw

I combine them because they are in the same segment and I don't actually care about them. If you want separate figures I'm sure one of the Holden sites will have plenty.

This is true, however, only the Barina competes against the Fiesta, not the Spark. Some people here might wish to see how the Barina is doing against the Fiesta, and if you combine the figures, this isn't possible.

Nikked · 16-04-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MrZ

This is true, however, only the Barina competes against the Fiesta, not the Spark. Some people here might wish to see how the Barina is doing against the Fiesta, and if you combine the figures, this isn't possible.

They share the same platform...

...Both compete against the fiesta.

Case closed.

MrZ · 16-04-2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

They share the same platform...

...Both compete against the fiesta.

Case closed.

I disagree. Spark is a 3 cylinder car costing around 12 grand and competes against other such cars including the Alto, Micra, and so on.

As for sharing the same platform, Territory and Falcon share the same platform, as does Kluger and Camry, and RAV4 and Corolla. I guess all of these vehicles are the same, right?

**russellw** · 16-04-2013, 07:54 PM

You can argue the toss as much as you like but it isn't going to change my view - if anything, combining the figures does the Barina a favour but last time I looked this was primarily a Ford based forum and thus the nuances of Barina sales are hardly of major interest.

Cheers
Russ

csv8 · 16-04-2013, 10:12 PM

Ford should have KA here, for $12990 drive away....

Road_Warrior · 16-04-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Ford should have KA here, for $12990 drive away....

No automatic option and no 5 door body = no deal, according to FoA.

csv8 · 16-04-2013, 10:58 PM

Road Warrior Ford needs a car below the Fiesta...to compete in the $12k market???

phillyc · 17-04-2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Road Warrior Ford needs a car below the Fiesta...to compete in the $12k market???

The KA is a premium small car.

The car Ford needs here is the Figo. The Figo was designed here in Australia by Ford and is an update of the previous generation Fiesta. There is a newer restyled version coming. Figo is likely to be sold in Australia starting sometime this year.

Another 500 units a month is good for Ford and their dealers.

MrZ · 17-04-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by phillyc

The KA is a premium small car.

The car Ford needs here is the Figo. The Figo was designed here in Australia by Ford and is an update of the previous generation Fiesta. There is a newer restyled version coming. Figo is likely to be sold in Australia starting sometime this year.

Another 500 units a month is good for Ford and their dealers.

I hope you're joking. An Indian-built subcompact based on an 11-year-old design, and also not available with an automatic? No thanks.