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Old 07-01-2006, 11:36 AM   #31
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I think it is always best to shop around. I would never pay anyone for a quote. Brokers receive kick backs and the idea that they charge for quotes in my book is criminal. But alas in this situation was a deal, nothing hidden, so thus is business.
If a broker does get you the best deal and saves you time therefore money and gets something for himself whats wrong with that? The dealer wasn't going to give it to you anyway and if thats the way they operate then thats fine. There are plenty of items whereby this happens,one of the most prominent would be home loans. Happens every day. $54 is a pittance.If theres a guarantee then you have little to lose.
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Old 07-01-2006, 12:41 PM   #32
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But it still doesn't make sense that a car broker (any car broker) cannot get a better price than Joe Average - regardless of information on hand. I would have thought that the point of a car broker and paying a fee was to get in essence the best deal possible.

Obviously not the case.
I can see it from the brokers side.

They call around and get the customer the best price. Then the advise the cusomer of this. If by chace the client goes to a dealer that either:-
a)has a car in stock they need to get rid of (been in yard too long)
b)have low sales for the month
c)can see making the money back on service.

They will sell at a loss, yes less they the dealer paid for the car. It has been done before. So this is out of control of the broker.

Parawolf your were lucky. Unless you got several quotes from a range of dealers, then that's another story.
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Old 07-01-2006, 01:41 PM   #33
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$54 dollars is around 1% of the money you want to spend. Cheap imho for a starting point when shopping for a new car

Why would you take any quote as gospel, common sense surely would tell you to do a little leg work of your own when you are spending 50k

Can the CarBroker get the same price from the same yard on the same car? I'd be interested in knowing

Maybe as a few others have alluded to, Gregorys Ford had the exact car you wanted that they wanted to get rid off for whatever reason.

I don't know but over $54 I think you were harsh, but I guess it does serve as a warning to other consumers to do alot of shopping around weather thru brokers or privately.
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Old 07-01-2006, 04:26 PM   #34
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$54 dollars is around 1% of the money you want to spend. Cheap imho for a starting point when shopping for a new car
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Old 07-01-2006, 11:07 PM   #35
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If a broker does get you the best deal and saves you time therefore money and gets something for himself whats wrong with that? The dealer wasn't going to give it to you anyway and if thats the way they operate then thats fine. There are plenty of items whereby this happens,one of the most prominent would be home loans. Happens every day. $54 is a pittance.If theres a guarantee then you have little to lose.
I would say all depends on your point of view. Like the banks charging fees yet they make money from loaning your funds to others. It is not the size of the fee that matters to me, merely the principle.
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Old 08-01-2006, 07:25 AM   #36
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I would say all depends on your point of view. Like the banks charging fees yet they make money from loaning your funds to others. It is not the size of the fee that matters to me, merely the principle.
If you get paid to work, then why shouldn't a broker? Especially when you consider that A1 are quite upfront re:costs. By the way, banks and brokers (all types) are chalk and cheese.
One makes you pay for them to use your property for their own greater benefit while reducing service levels while the other gets paid to help you spend money/ purchase goods.
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:30 AM   #37
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If you get paid to work, then why shouldn't a broker? Especially when you consider that A1 are quite upfront re:costs. By the way, banks and brokers (all types) are chalk and cheese.
One makes you pay for them to use your property for their own greater benefit while reducing service levels while the other gets paid to help you spend money/ purchase goods.
I agree chalk and cheese. my old bank were forcing me to pay a loan i'd already paid out! Any broker being car or otherwise would get some kind of benefit from the supplier, being a customer, if the price is right, i dont mind them getting a reward for doing the work. The rewards they get may be much less than the difference in me looking for the same priced item, i'd probably get ripped.
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