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30-06-2015, 11:06 PM | #1 | ||
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Hi all, looking for some feedback from taller drivers of manual GTP's, B series in particular.
I've got my GTP up for sale at the moment and have had 2 potential buyers (both approx 6'2 as claimed by one) and have both struggled with the clearance between the steering wheel and the left leg when operating the clutch. Personally its not an issue for me as I'm short with short legs. The issue the potential buyers had were they felt the front of the seat sat to high and couldn't drop it any lower using the seat controls on the side. Do any taller manual GTP drivers out there have this same issue or methods to drop the seat height? Cheers
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01-07-2015, 04:34 AM | #2 | ||
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Same applies to any manual BA/BF/FG i've ever driven. I drop the seat to its lowest the pull the steering wheel all the way out from the dash to get max leg clearance and i'm 6'.
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01-07-2015, 08:54 AM | #3 | ||
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I have a BF GT 6 spd manual and I'm 6'3 - no issues for me.
As said, I put the seat to it's lowest position and have the steering wheel pulled right out & as high as it will go. I find it quite comfortable to drive?
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01-07-2015, 09:27 AM | #4 | ||
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Im a shortass and the BA/FG series seating position is great for me. In the commodores I has (VY SS etc), i struggled to fully press the clutch.
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01-07-2015, 09:31 AM | #5 | ||
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I'm 6ft and have no issues with my manual BA or any of the manual/auto FG's I've driven at all.
only issue I have sometimes is if I don't get in right I get a little jammed with my thigh between the wheel and seat
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01-07-2015, 09:56 AM | #6 | ||
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GT-P's have higher seats than other Falcons. I'm not tall but struggle to get comfy in my GT-P compared to my BF wagon.
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01-07-2015, 10:05 AM | #7 | ||
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I'm a tad under 6'6" and find them very uncomfortable, the brother has a grange that fits me well, so I think there is a little in the driving position FoMoCo have bestowed upon us. In the GT my wide **** sits on top of the seats' side bolstering, the GTP looks like it would be a tighter fit again to me.
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01-07-2015, 11:50 AM | #8 | ||
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Thanks, didn't think to pull the steering wheel away from the dash, only had it set as far up as it would go.
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01-07-2015, 11:53 AM | #9 | ||
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Thanks, this is exactly what effected one potential buyer, he got out of his BA XR8 manual never having the clearance issue and then found the clearance issue in the GTP.
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01-07-2015, 12:35 PM | #10 | ||
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I had GTP seats in my BAII Super Pursuit Ute, and had to swap them out for XR6 seats for the 5 years I owned it. I couldn't even see the traffic lights without leaning forward in the seat. The GTP seats were very uncomfortable to climb in and out of too...... I'm 6'4" as well....
The standard "GT" seats are much better imo. |
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01-07-2015, 01:50 PM | #11 | ||
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The other issue if the steering wheel is not pulled all the way back and the seat moved further back accordingly, is that the gearshift will probably be too far back.
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01-07-2015, 03:39 PM | #12 | ||
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BF GT 6 speed manual, 6'2" no issues at all.
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01-07-2015, 06:42 PM | #13 | ||
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Every Falcon seat is too high. Ford had no concept of sitting in a car, they decided everybody had to sit on it. Clueless!
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01-07-2015, 07:02 PM | #14 | ||
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Whilst I was comfortable behind the wheel in my FG, clutch actuations were by side stepping as my leg would hit the steering wheel, even at its highest and with the seat at its lowest. As a result, I always felt I was sitting on the seat and not in the seat.
Consequently, the GT-P seat whilst fantastic, was a non-starter for me in manual guise. |
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01-07-2015, 08:04 PM | #15 | ||
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Its the GT-P, the seats sit higher than the GT.
I'm 6'5" and 75kg (skinny as) when i sit properly (not "gangsta" style) my head is about 2cm from the roof and i can't engage the clutch properly, even with the steering wheel out and up. This is the reason i ended up buying my old clubsport instead of a BF GT-P. |
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02-07-2015, 02:19 AM | #16 | ||
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Isn't it interesting how some swear by fords crappy seating position....while plenty of both short and very tall have Zero problems. (Me included) yet people like my wife hop in a HSV and being short can't see a thing out of it.
So what's worse.....some people being slightly uncomfortable.....or a dangerous potentially life threatening seating position? Oh and for everyone who missed it....awhile ago I did a thread comparing physical measurements between falcon and commadore seating and vision. While in the ford, there is deffinately less room between the seat and steering wheel base....it seems that it's also a huge "perception" of sitting lower when in the commadore, as the dash and window sill are higher then the fords, but the A pillar is fatter and the window opening is smaller as well. All leading to a feeling of sitting lower and "in" the car. Hence why most people who never drive both will not feel the ford sits too high! (And there's why the media,who often drive both, always bang on about it....but have you ever heard them mention the vision obstruction?) |
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02-07-2015, 03:35 AM | #17 | |||
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Seeing entering traffic when negotiating a roundabout was a matter of crossing your fingers for luck and hope for the best. I don’t know where you were hiding while those complaints were doing the rounds for about 6 years. It eventually lost motion when other cars started to appear with similar problems due to their front and side curtain airbags. I’m a short fellow, short enough where I never have a problem with leg space in the Fords and at the same time I can adjust the height of a seat in a Commodore to not only easily see over the doors sills, dash and steering wheel but to the point where I feel like I’m in an SUV and have to take care not to hit my head on the sunroof surrounds. Your arguments when addressing Fords faults would be stronger if you didn’t need to make up or drawn on the faults of other vehicles to justify the existence of Ford’s shoddy design. The constraint bombardment of Holden is a sad indication of someone bordering on dimwittedness. |
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02-07-2015, 08:13 PM | #18 | ||
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A bit off topic but i Used to have the same issue with the 80s falcons and ltds, also 98 longreach ute.
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02-07-2015, 09:46 PM | #19 | ||
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6'5 and coudn't drive a manual in BA-BF, and even worse in the FG. Test drove a few, including the so called improved FGX seating position
steering wheel is in your lap, and your left leg gets crammed between the centre console and wheel when actuating the clutch. the frustrating thing is the gap between the wheel column and dash at the highest position appears it could have gone up another 2 inches, and the seat has room underneath to go lower... |
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02-07-2015, 10:32 PM | #20 | |||
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So Have you heard them complain about the poor vision recently Or is it just the poor seating position of the fords? (Rhetorical questions) |
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02-07-2015, 11:33 PM | #21 | ||
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Depends how big your *** is too. Someone that's 6'3 and skinny vs someone that's 6'3 and has a Linebacker bubble-butt...generally they will sit higher.
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