Dodge Ram 3 Month Waiting List... - Page 2

chevypower · 17-02-2016, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hulsty

More so the actual build date/spec of the vehicles.

Whether it's a 2015 or 2016, there are no changes on a 2500 Laramie. Interior and engine were heavily updated in 2013 and the chassis in 2014. The 2017 will be out later in the year, and the only difference it will have is an available 4x4 Off-road package. That comes with Bilsteins, all-terrains, skid plates, limited-slip diff, and decals on the back that say "4x4 OffRoad." A redesigned Ram is at least 18 months away. The current looks, interior, suspension, and engine are far better than the new Ford Super Duty coming out this year as well as the Chevy and GMC. I'm told the next one will have similar technology to the Pacifica that will be out later this year and updated engines.

sprintman1 · 18-02-2016, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

If the regular one can still be driven on a car license can you still hook up the full 6t and be legal????

Shouldn't be the case. I guess you get a 2t Hilux / Ranger / D-Max thing then rig up the full 3.5t and you are still 'fine'.

But 6t?? Plus tow vehicle (2.5t???).

8.5-9t of rolling mass should not be in the hands of a car license holder IMO.

You need to get your head around the following
ATM, GTM, GVM, GCM, Tare, ball weight.

sprintman1 · 18-02-2016, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011G6E

The simple fact is that the roads...and more vitally the car parks...in the USA are designed with these oversized monstrosities in mind. Our roads are narrow enough as it is, and car parks are getting smaller and smaller.

"They're great for towing massive vans". Yes...undoubtedly they are.
Just what we need...more grey nomads with who-knows-how-good driving skills, lumbering around in these monsters with even bigger and bigger caravans and fifty wheelers dragging along behind them at 70kph on the highway. Great.

Basically, they're a solution without a problem. I've seen huge horse floats and vans behind the four wheel drives and twin cabs we already have...this is just a status symbol so idiots can feel superior in crowded city traffic...and you know that's where most of them will be. I doubt you're going to see many $150,000+ Dodges driving around mine sites or farms...

Congratulations this is one of the most clueless posts I've seen here and that's saying something. Think outside 'grey nomads' and 'caravans'

Yellow_Festiva · 18-02-2016, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

You need to get your head around the following
ATM, GTM, GVM, GCM, Tare, ball weight.

Ok then, please educate me on how the acronyms effect my opinion......

chevypower · 18-02-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Ok then, please educate me on how the acronyms effect my opinion......

Understanding the acronyms will help you understand capability, which will help you understand why we want vehicles with increased capability towing those loads, not less. It's a safety issue as well as common sense.

sprintman1 · 18-02-2016, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Ok then, please educate me on how the acronyms effect my opinion......

Read your post then apply the above. Simple as...

Yellow_Festiva · 18-02-2016, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Read your post then apply the above. Simple as...

So simple you couldn't comprehend nor answer my request....

Yellow_Festiva · 18-02-2016, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

Understanding the acronyms will help you understand capability, which will help you understand why we want vehicles with increased capability towing those loads, not less. It's a safety issue as well as common sense.

You didn't read my post nor understand what I was getting at. I was questioning the supposed legality of a person driving one of these rigs with a full load and that (in my opinion) shouldn't be in the hands of a regular car driver.

According to the VicRoads info Superoo posted you could be used to driving this:

Then hop into one of these:

Did I read it correct that a car licence holder can have an up to 4.5t tow vehicle dragging along an up to 9t trailer???

chevypower · 18-02-2016, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

You didn't read my post nor understand what I was getting at. I was questioning the supposed legality of a person driving one of these rigs with a full load and that (in my opinion) shouldn't be in the hands of a regular car driver.

According to the VicRoads info Superoo posted you could be used to driving this:

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Then hop into one of these:

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Did I read it correct that a car licence holder can have an up to 4.5t tow vehicle dragging along an up to 9t trailer???

Yes, theoretically you could. But in the real world, have you ever seen that happen? They're not the same people. I have never had any formal trailer towing lessons, but I am damn good at it. We don't need special licenses for everything. Just like Mr. Miyagi told Daniel Laruso: "Remember, license doesn't replace brain!" The governments already have their hands in way too much. Come on, life is short, let's not take it too seriously, so let's have some fun!

sprintman1 · 18-02-2016, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

So simple you couldn't comprehend nor answer my request....

Your post was dumb. Again read your post then apply the acronyms to fully why it was dumb. Some people...........

Matty4 · 19-02-2016, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Your post was dumb. Again read your post then apply the acronyms to fully why it was dumb. Some people...........

......indeed!!

Yellow_Festiva · 19-02-2016, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintman1

Your post was dumb. Again read your post then apply the acronyms to fully why it was dumb. Some people...........

Again.. show me where I stated that I don't understand the acronyms

You can't, because I didn't.

I simply stated that we (the general public and weekend warrior) are used to 2t vehicles pulling up to 3.5t.

When we start to introduce 3t+ vehicles being able to pull more than double what most are used to legally you have to question if that is all that safe.

At no point did I question their ability to tow, at no point did I state I am confused about whatever letters you will throw at me.

It's my opinion and I can state it as I like.

I also don't need to resort to cheap shots to make a point unlike 'some people'.........

Yellow_Festiva · 19-02-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

Yes, theoretically you could. But in the real world, have you ever seen that happen? They're not the same people. I have never had any formal trailer towing lessons, but I am damn good at it. We don't need special licenses for everything. Just like Mr. Miyagi told Daniel Laruso: "Remember, license doesn't replace brain!" The governments already have their hands in way too much. Come on, life is short, let's not take it too seriously, so let's have some fun!

I get that. I need to reverse my trailer down my 100m driveway every time I use it. Can do it without any issues.

On the other hand, I watch people at the dump / boat ramp / caravan park who need to go back and forth several dozen times and still get it wrong. Or cut corners when turning and jump gutters or make other cars swerve as they have no clue as to how to handle a trailer correctly.

If these rigs become more common, and if we start pushing the boundaries then the rules need to be looked at as well.

I find it odd that if I want to ride a 125cc auto scooter I need a special license and to be assessed for my competency.

Always plan for and account for the lowest common denominator - remember we come from a society that needs to be legally warned that coffee and hot apple pie 'may be hot'....

Itsme · 19-02-2016, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

I get that. I need to reverse my trailer down my 100m driveway every time I use it. Can do it without any issues.

On the other hand, I watch people at the dump / boat ramp / caravan park who need to go back and forth several dozen times and still get it wrong. Or cut corners when turning and jump gutters or make other cars swerve as they have no clue as to how to handle a trailer correctly.

If these rigs become more common, and if we start pushing the boundaries then the rules need to be looked at as well.

I find it odd that if I want to ride a 125cc auto scooter I need a special license and to be assessed for my competency.

Always plan for and account for the lowest common denominator - remember we come from a society that needs to be legally warned that coffee and hot apple pie 'may be hot'....

I see people every day who cannot drive a normal car correctly, what does that tell you.

Yellow_Festiva · 19-02-2016, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by trublu

I see people every day who cannot drive a normal car correctly, what does that tell you.

That a drivers license is too easy to obtain! ;-)

sprintman1 · 19-02-2016, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Again.. show me where I stated that I don't understand the acronyms

You can't, because I didn't.

I simply stated that we (the general public and weekend warrior) are used to 2t vehicles pulling up to 3.5t.

When we start to introduce 3t+ vehicles being able to pull more than double what most are used to legally you have to question if that is all that safe.

At no point did I question their ability to tow, at no point did I state I am confused about whatever letters you will throw at me.

It's my opinion and I can state it as I like.

I also don't need to resort to cheap shots to make a point unlike 'some people'.........

Do you believe a D-Max with 3.5t towing capacity can legally tow a 3.5t caravan?