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06-08-2011, 07:06 PM | #31 | |||
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To find your ECU code, pull the passenger side footwell carpet closest to the passenger door, away from the ECU. Then you can put your hand on the underside of the ECU, you will feel a 1" x 2" black plastic port cover. If you have a torch and a small mirror you will be able to read the 4 digit code from the sticker on it. eg/ 22NA, 22CA, 12RB or something similar like that. This is the first step. See how you go. See what codes that your cars have. -Craig |
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07-08-2011, 08:10 AM | #32 | |||
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18-08-2011, 09:25 AM | #33 | ||
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Thought I might update this thread, I drove the car in question the other day and there is definitely a noticable change in performance following tuning. The owner ended up using Sniper to tune the car and the current tune in it is the 'performance' tune as supplied by BPR.
I think based on this experience and also how far my jaw dropped when I saw the amount of reading to understand/use Quarterhorse, I would also choose Sniper if it were my car. It is essentially the same as Xcal3 with a few changes in regards to who/how the tunes are uploaded. I think the owner of the car considers it money well spent and after having a drive of it I would tend to agree.
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18-08-2011, 10:32 AM | #34 | ||
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I have heard good things about Sniper tunes too. Yes, its basically the same as xcal3 except you dont get a unit to take with you. Its left to the tuner to upload as far as I am aware. But I have always wondered how it would go if you needed to 'reflash' the ecu to rid it of the KAM that the ecu picks up over time?
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18-08-2011, 01:50 PM | #35 | |||
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Operates the same as an Xcal.
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18-08-2011, 01:54 PM | #36 | ||
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Oh interesting. Is the price comparable and what additional benefits are over there over the Xcal3 do you know?
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18-08-2011, 02:12 PM | #37 | |||
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The other feature I kind of like is that with his box I could actually tune my ute. All I would need to do is pay for a 'bullet' which would be sent to him (as he has the box), he 'loads the bullet' and then flashes it into my ute and away we go. Not a bad feature if you only plan on tuning it once. Each box is apparently able to tune somewhere round 3000 cars whereas the Xcal is limited to doing one car at a time.
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18-08-2011, 02:26 PM | #38 | |||
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18-08-2011, 02:29 PM | #39 | |||
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18-08-2011, 02:34 PM | #40 | ||
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Would the tunes be limited to 3 in total or can there 3 tunes per vehicle? Probably the former.
I got this information from BPT website regarding what a Bullet is. Basically, Sniper™ "Bullets" are passwords that can be individually purchased. Each "Bullet" or password allows you to flash a different vehicle using the Sniper™ Interface Box. Sniper™ "Bullets" can be purchased electronically, manually through a phone call, downloaded by the customer, or e-mailed directly to the customer. The advantages to this flexibility are tremendous! For example, an Installer/Tuner shop needs but one Sniper™ Interface Box to sell a performance power tuning "Bullet" for any customer's vehicle! No need to stock hard parts chips, tuners etc. "Inventory" of Sniper™ "Bullets" is available on line, 24/7, just by logging on and downloading. You're never out of stock and inventory investment is "low to none at all"!
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20-08-2011, 07:59 AM | #41 | ||
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Sniper is essentially first version Xcal/CAPA Flash Tuner.
Unlike Xcal 3, you don't get a user adjustable interface - but you do get an interface. However you can purchase the Delta Force tuning software for about a ~$1000. There a few forums in the US dedicated to Sniper Tuning and it's software. For $550 I consider it money well spent. Much better to drive now too.
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20-08-2011, 09:55 AM | #42 | |||
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Seems like good value. Cheers Stu
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20-08-2011, 10:02 AM | #43 | ||
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With Xcal3 I pay $250 per custom tune from a well known guru in Adelaide.
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20-08-2011, 01:20 PM | #44 | |||
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Little from column A, little from column B... Generic tunes based on what I told BPT about the mods
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20-08-2011, 06:11 PM | #45 | ||
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Stu,
I'll give you the full run down when you come over and give me a hand with the valve springs I've sent a PM asking for a quote, so I'll let you know a plan when I get the information - assuming your offer is still on the table?
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20-08-2011, 06:17 PM | #46 | |||
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15-04-2023, 05:26 PM | #47 | |||
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i.e. 12ZB becomes 12ZC Could I assume this is done by Ford dealer service depts? For some reason they have decided to re-flash a vehicles ECU. And their sophisticate way of documenting this is the black texta? The above quoted comment, would then be when noone somewhere could be bothered using the black texta? |
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16-04-2023, 12:04 PM | #48 | ||
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Have read as much as I can, without confusing myself.
It seems like going down the J3 path with say T.I Performance would suit me best? But I'd just like to check that with anyone who knows more. I'm not ready to start yet. But I don't want to wait too long and miss out on buying the equipment and parts I would need. Have an AU3 stock I6 option 20 sedan with a manual conversion so far. It's just my daily driver. I wasn't planning to track it. Also have a spare HP and VCT engine, a box of various ECU's, and a spare J3 chip with a basic tune, to play with. I'd like to experiment with cost effective performance improvements. Probably over a long period of time. I'm not a great mechanic. But I have some IT skills. And can learn still...eventually. Don't like wasting money but can afford to spend what I need to...if that makes any sense. Also like the flexibility of being able to pay for the work to be done if I find I need to. I'd also like to be able to download/dump the binfile of my less common manual ECU's and upload/flash these bin files to some more common auto ECU's I don't need. |
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