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https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/lat...ures-phevs-evs
So many brands and models selling EVs yet their share of the market is not growing
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Ford in first place with Ranger, second spot for total sales.
TOP 10 BRANDS - Toyota 20,541 +8.3% Ford 8232 -6.2% Mazda 8000 -3.0% Kia 7307 +3.4% Mitsubishi 7265 -7.6% Hyundai 6813 +13.8% BYD 4811 +196.6% GWM 4393 +21.4% Nissan 4079 -18.0% MG 3926 -0.6% TOP 10 MODELS - Ford Ranger 4932 Toyota RAV4 4321 Toyota Hilux 4081 Mits Outlander 3005 Toyota Prado 2871 BYD Shark 6 2810 Ford Everest 2100 Isuzu D-Max 2088 MG ZS 2020 Hyundai Kona 2011 Sports cars under $90,000: Ford Mustang (561), Subaru BRZ (75), Toyota GR86 (61) Large SUVs under $80,000: Toyota Prado (2871), Ford Everest (2100), Isuzu MU-X (1420) Medium vans: Toyota HiAce (1052), Ford Transit Custom (305), Hyundai Staria Load (252) 4×2 utes: Toyota HiLux (721), Isuzu D-Max (467), Mazda BT-50 (253) 4×4 utes: Ford Ranger (4687), Toyota HiLux (3360), BYD Shark 6 (2810) Good to see Transit make some improvement. Granted an isolated case, but check out the 1327 difference between 4x4 Ranger and Hilux. Imagine if Ford put more effort into 2WD, they could possibly extend that lead.
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Official announcement today.
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Yes and hopefully this is not a one off month, maybe Everest and Prado can continue
to sell at last month’s levels without interfering with each other - like Hilux and Ranger. Shark 6 had a big month, I wonder if any particular brands suffered losses as buyers switched, doesn’t seem to have affected Ranger or Hilux much and I don’t think RAV4 buyers are part of this but curious to know others take on where Shark 6 is drawing it buyers from…. |
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I wonder if that is a clever work around in case they have a hung parliament. |
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Most recent odds I saw looked like labor win, they would keep their NVES I reckon.
The BYD Shark sales are really interesting, I've seen a few around, that's an area of the sales to keep a watch on. MG, BYD, GWM all top 10. I reckon the Tanks are a breath of fresh air in the market.
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slightly off topic - US market not Aussie market
https://www.theepochtimes.com/busine...ariffs-5836385 Ford's gone to employee pricing for everyone on most models in the US to offset uncertainty from new tariffs. Also, story mentions 80% of what they sell in US is US-made, which insulates Ford a bit more from what's about to happen. Wonder if deals like that get to Oz - probably not!
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When I bought my "real" Mustang last year, I asked my salesman how they were going with the Mach-E. I live in a rural town, so electric sales are very limited in this area, hence my interest.
My salesman had done the training to be the expert salesman for Mach-E, and even he couldn't put a positive spin on it. Let's be clear here, the car itself is VERY good and I quite like the styling, but there are some major sticking points hampering its success. 1. Price, which considering what people are prepared to pay for electric cars, or even a prestige car, you'd think this wouldn't matter. But direct comparisons with Tesla were not favorable for the Ford. 2. Image! Ford tried to get around this by calling it a Mustang......................but it's still a FORD, and that doesn't have the same snob factor that potential electric car owners want, and Tesla happens to deliver. 3. The Name! The salesman went on to tell me that many people would come into the showroom asking to look at the "4-door Mustang"................only to walk out when informed it was electric only. In this area, electric just isn't a viable solution yet..............at least in the customer's mind. 4. The Name! Yes, the name that Ford thought would be a winner has backfired. They tried to inject a sense of excitement into what is, let's be real here, an average mid-sized SUV. Its only point of difference being the electric powertrain. The idea of using such an evocative name on a boring SUV was ridiculous then, and now. Now, I hear that pricing on Mach-E is being discounted to stimulate sales, but that doesn't address points 2 - 4 above. But what would I know, Ford have an expert marketing team that clearly know what they are doing....................oh, wait....................
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Few of the trade guys I know are buying them, they mention many mates will be looking at the chinese options due to affordabilty. Then the budget conscious Tradesman/owner builder wising up not spending $100k.
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Time will tell. I don't see any of those first model GWM utes on the roads anymore, must be at sims metal and shipped abroad ![]()
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Are the Tanks meant to be the simple and rugged 4x4 at about 50K for the entry smaller one? Or are they complex things?
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Canada’s Oakville is still being reconfigured to build Super Duty pickups in 2026 pity they weren’t building F150 and Super Duty, that would be perfect for Canadian sale. Ford USA had a good month in March, selling just under 70,000 F Series is always a good sign for profits, other vehicles are a bit hit and miss but they pail in comparison to F Series |
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