Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > Club and Speciality Forums > Forum Community Car Clubs > AU Falcon.com.au

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 29-07-2007, 08:11 PM   #1
GK
Walking with God
 
GK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 7,321
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Thumbs up Ev's 5 speed

Hi Guys,

I had the absolute joy of taking Ev's Classic AU with the new 5 speed for a spin this arvo.

It was everything I thought it would be and more!

If I have to replace the auto in the SR, and the manual conversion is around the same price, I know what I'd rather.

The manual (short-shifter equipped) felt fantastic, and the torque of the I6 was great. Ev's car span up pretty quick, even when short-shifting.

I got home and went inside, man I couldn't get the grin off my face for half an hour.

Very impressive indeed.

Ev's car to be fair has a lower diff, extractors, flash tuner and isn't on gas, but I'd still love to see how my SR would go with a 5 speed.

Thanks heaps EV, I had an absolute ball!

GK

__________________
2009 Mondeo Zetec TDCi - Moondust Silver

2015 Kia Sorento Platinum - Snow White Pearl

2001 Ducati Monster 900Sie - Red

Now gone!
1999 AU1 Futura Wagon - Sparkling Burgundy
On LPG



Want a Full Life? John 10:10
GK is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-07-2007, 08:14 PM   #2
bodes-sh
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Perth, South
Posts: 3,064
Default

lol, sounds very good, i think i know what i need to do now.....
bodes-sh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-07-2007, 08:41 PM   #3
RG
Back to Le Frenchy
 
RG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Back home.....
Posts: 13,346
Default

Falcon + Manual = FUN!

Now all I have to do is wait for my auto to call it quits :evil3:
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5
nah mate, aussie cars are the besterest and funnerest, nothing beats them, specially a poofy wrong wheel drive
07 Renault Sport Megane F1 Team R26 #1397
RG is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-07-2007, 09:51 PM   #4
private9
www.TUFFCARPARTS.com
 
private9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,221
Default

Good stuff, Evan must be very happy!
private9 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-07-2007, 09:53 PM   #5
bodes-sh
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Perth, South
Posts: 3,064
Default

^^i guess that's why he hasn't said anything in this thread yet, too busy enjoying it, lol
bodes-sh is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-07-2007, 10:06 PM   #6
GlennBA
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
GlennBA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,918
Default

They're fantastic to drive. I'd never buy another automatic falcon again
GlennBA is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-07-2007, 10:17 PM   #7
XR6Stu
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Victoria!
Posts: 348
Default

ah having a manual is pretty good. having said that im looking to sell mine soon, and build an auto 5 litre. just a nice cruiser
XR6Stu is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-07-2007, 10:48 AM   #8
ClassicAU
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,558
Default

Thanks for the kind words George, and for the tips and help on how to drive a manual properly! As you have said, i am totally wrapped with how the conversion turned out!
For someone who hasn't driven a manual for a fair while, you did an excellent job of hiding it! I was very impressed with the foot work especially, very smooth.

It does feel great to have a little bit of power behing the stick shift. It's just so much more fun to spin the engine up a bit!

I could tell as soon as we took off that GK was in trouble with this decission. He was almost more excited about it than i was!
Just need to get the tune sorted out tomorrow. Taking it in to the flash tune master down at Blue Power to get the touch, then it should be sweet as!

Evan
ClassicAU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-07-2007, 06:08 PM   #9
Whoosha
AU DIE HARD
Donating Member1
 
Whoosha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Between 2nd and 5th gear
Posts: 5,073
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: For all the things you do behind the scenes. Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClassicAU
Thanks for the kind words George, and for the tips and help on how to drive a manual properly! As you have said, i am totally wrapped with how the conversion turned out!
For someone who hasn't driven a manual for a fair while, you did an excellent job of hiding it! I was very impressed with the foot work especially, very smooth.

It does feel great to have a little bit of power behing the stick shift. It's just so much more fun to spin the engine up a bit!

I could tell as soon as we took off that GK was in trouble with this decission. He was almost more excited about it than i was!
Just need to get the tune sorted out tomorrow. Taking it in to the flash tune master down at Blue Power to get the touch, then it should be sweet as!

Evan
Welcome to the club Evan... : .. what clutch did you end up using ??

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedXR347
Falcon + Manual = FUN!

Now all I have to do is wait for my auto to call it quits :evil3:
Still wont help your slug stroker dude
Just do it mate and I mite even help you fit it
__________________

........Age and treachery will ALWAYS overcome youth and skill.......


CORTINA 250 2V POWER soon to be AUXR8 Windsor pwrd


.............WINDSOR WARLORD WHO CARRIES THE CLEVO MAFIA AND BROKEN BOSSES...
..................................................

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riksta
Quote of the weekend: "The quarter mile wasn't as long as I expected it to be".
Whoosha is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-07-2007, 08:35 PM   #10
RG
Back to Le Frenchy
 
RG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Back home.....
Posts: 13,346
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whoosha
Welcome to the club Evan... : .. what clutch did you end up using ??


Still wont help your slug stroker dude
Just do it mate and I mite even help you fit it
Damn you Whoosha, you are making even more tempting. I may just take you up on that offer, maybe my next mod!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5
nah mate, aussie cars are the besterest and funnerest, nothing beats them, specially a poofy wrong wheel drive
07 Renault Sport Megane F1 Team R26 #1397
RG is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-07-2007, 08:42 PM   #11
AU2PWR
Spin 'em Habib !
 
AU2PWR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cranbourne Victoria
Posts: 3,854
Default

Russ ... Maybe should drag Ev to Calder Friday ?
__________________
AU2PWR

AU2PWR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 30-07-2007, 10:24 PM   #12
ClassicAU
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,558
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whoosha
Welcome to the club Evan... : .. what clutch did you end up using ??
Thanks Woosha, and I must say it feels good to be here!! Not too sure exactly what brand or type of clutch they used, all i know is its standard spec and its new. It feels like it is, as the friction point is quite high up in the pedal travel.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AU2PWR
Russ ... Maybe should drag Ev to Calder Friday ?
Don't you mean drag me AT calder mate? Wouldn't want to encourage anything illegal now! :P
It would be a waste of time anyway. I would like to learn how to at least shift properly before I run it. With my current skill level, I would be lucky to run under 20 seconds!

Evan
ClassicAU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 31-07-2007, 01:26 PM   #13
S3SR
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
S3SR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: QLD - Townsville
Posts: 1,772
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GK
I'd still love to see how my SR would go with a 5 speed.
itd go great
__________________
My Cars:

2002 Ford Falcon AU S3 SR
2006 BF MKI Falcon XR6
2008 Mazda BT50 SDX
2004 BA XR8 ute
2006 AUDI A4 B7
2013 FG II XR6 Ute
2006 Ford Territory TX
2003 Ford Falcon XR8
2009 Territory Turbo Ghia

Current: 2012 Audi A4 B8 2.0T Quattro
S3SR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 31-07-2007, 06:52 PM   #14
AK
Regular Member
 
AK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Central Coast
Posts: 252
Default

This makes me really want to convert to manual. Just wait for the auto to die then see what happens.
__________________
Lightning Strike 09 G6E TURBO Shockworks Coilovers - Inovit Speedys - Streetfighter Intake
AK is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 31-07-2007, 06:55 PM   #15
5L
[ 5L ]
 
5L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: North Haven, Adelaide
Posts: 2,886
Default

good to see you got the right gearbox.... all you need now is the right motor
__________________
[ 5L ] 2001 AU series 2 xr8, 220kw, 5speed, leather interior, premium sound, narooma blue, cat back exhaust, k&n filter,willall edit,MSD coil packs, MSD leads, monroe gt gas shocks, superlow kingsprings 187rwkw (mainline)


www.ignitionimages.com
5L is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 31-07-2007, 07:15 PM   #16
ClassicAU
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,558
Default

Everyone that takes my car for a spin is hooked!! Just need to get a few more manual's out there. Viva la manual revolution!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by AUXR8220
good to see you got the right gearbox.... all you need now is the right motor
pfft, who needs a V8. I recon I could jump you off the line, if i knew how to drive!
ClassicAU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 31-07-2007, 07:24 PM   #17
AU2PWR
Spin 'em Habib !
 
AU2PWR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cranbourne Victoria
Posts: 3,854
Default

Ev .. Come to Calder friday ..
__________________
AU2PWR

AU2PWR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 31-07-2007, 07:36 PM   #18
5L
[ 5L ]
 
5L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: North Haven, Adelaide
Posts: 2,886
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClassicAU
pfft, who needs a V8. I recon I could jump you off the line, if i knew how to drive!
pfft, only if you redlighted :
__________________
[ 5L ] 2001 AU series 2 xr8, 220kw, 5speed, leather interior, premium sound, narooma blue, cat back exhaust, k&n filter,willall edit,MSD coil packs, MSD leads, monroe gt gas shocks, superlow kingsprings 187rwkw (mainline)


www.ignitionimages.com
5L is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 31-07-2007, 08:18 PM   #19
Andy XR8
AU3 Winged Windsor
 
Andy XR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 457
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AUXR8220
pfft, only if you redlighted :
i second that
Andy XR8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 31-07-2007, 09:30 PM   #20
ClassicAU
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,558
Default

I never said it was going to be fair!! :P

Calder does sound tempting Dan, but i don't have a helmet. Last time i borrowed one from there they took $50 off me for the pleasure! Not going to make that mistake again.
ClassicAU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 31-07-2007, 09:43 PM   #21
RG
Back to Le Frenchy
 
RG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Back home.....
Posts: 13,346
Default

Is going to be raining Friday anyway guys.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5
nah mate, aussie cars are the besterest and funnerest, nothing beats them, specially a poofy wrong wheel drive
07 Renault Sport Megane F1 Team R26 #1397
RG is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-08-2007, 02:19 PM   #22
ClassicAU
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,558
Default

I just thought i would share my experienc with the manual so far. No use starting another thread.

Axle tramp sucks!! If I try and take off from stationary at anything above grandpa speeds, the entire back of the car bounces around! I never experienced this with the auto. Is it just a manual thing, or has my suspension had it?
I was also thinking it could be to with the fact that I still have the 3.73 diff ratio, and that may be too short for the manual. It feels like it is, as I seem to be swapping gears a fair bit.
It was even worse when I attempted to do a u-turn in a bit of a hurry, that felt terrible! The back of the car bounced so much it seemed to upset the LSD, as it was swapping from single to twin and didn't know what was going on!
Maybe it's just my car and i should quit whinging.

Evan
ClassicAU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-08-2007, 03:31 PM   #23
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,704
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClassicAU
I just thought i would share my experienc with the manual so far. No use starting another thread.

Axle tramp sucks!! If I try and take off from stationary at anything above grandpa speeds, the entire back of the car bounces around! I never experienced this with the auto. Is it just a manual thing, or has my suspension had it?
I was also thinking it could be to with the fact that I still have the 3.73 diff ratio, and that may be too short for the manual. It feels like it is, as I seem to be swapping gears a fair bit.
It was even worse when I attempted to do a u-turn in a bit of a hurry, that felt terrible! The back of the car bounced so much it seemed to upset the LSD, as it was swapping from single to twin and didn't know what was going on!
Maybe it's just my car and i should quit whinging.

Evan
Pretty standard for a manual. I had similar issues with my Manual AU1 XR8 (it was a red one!). The auto XR8 never had the same issues.
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-08-2007, 05:40 PM   #24
5L
[ 5L ]
 
5L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: North Haven, Adelaide
Posts: 2,886
Default

mine axle tramps on take offs, never experienced it around corners or u-turn though, just take offs.
__________________
[ 5L ] 2001 AU series 2 xr8, 220kw, 5speed, leather interior, premium sound, narooma blue, cat back exhaust, k&n filter,willall edit,MSD coil packs, MSD leads, monroe gt gas shocks, superlow kingsprings 187rwkw (mainline)


www.ignitionimages.com
5L is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-08-2007, 06:13 PM   #25
RG
Back to Le Frenchy
 
RG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Back home.....
Posts: 13,346
Default

I had really bad axle tramp in my old manual EL and I had it for a while in the XR too. I found tyre choice has a lot to do with it.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5
nah mate, aussie cars are the besterest and funnerest, nothing beats them, specially a poofy wrong wheel drive
07 Renault Sport Megane F1 Team R26 #1397
RG is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-08-2007, 09:00 PM   #26
private9
www.TUFFCARPARTS.com
 
private9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,221
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedXR347
I found tyre choice has a lot to do with it.
Tyres definitely make a big difference. That and rear shocks if they're stuffed.
private9 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 12:09 AM   #27
ClassicAU
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,558
Default

Thanks guys, I didn't think of that. My Pirelli's are pretty much smoked. I guess that will teach me for being a smart ar5e and slipping the clutch in a u-turn! I still have the king's super-low springs sitting in my room. When i get around to it I will get some shorter shocks and fix the rear end. Hopefully that should help things a bit.

Evan
ClassicAU is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 04-08-2007, 07:54 AM   #28
RG
Back to Le Frenchy
 
RG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Back home.....
Posts: 13,346
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ClassicAU
Thanks guys, I didn't think of that. My Pirelli's are pretty much smoked. I guess that will teach me for being a smart ar5e and slipping the clutch in a u-turn! I still have the king's super-low springs sitting in my room. When i get around to it I will get some shorter shocks and fix the rear end. Hopefully that should help things a bit.

Evan
Bald or near bald tyres are the worst for causing axle tramp, just ask Daniel about mine on the way to the AFF Drag day when I had my bald S-03's on.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5
nah mate, aussie cars are the besterest and funnerest, nothing beats them, specially a poofy wrong wheel drive
07 Renault Sport Megane F1 Team R26 #1397
RG is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 07:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL