Global Turmoil Forces Holden Shutdowns.

[Sprint XR8]

"Holden says there will be production closures at its plant in adelaide over the next four months because of the global financial turmoil."http://abc.com.au/news/stories/2008/10/14/2391085.htm

[mr smith]

People I know in Holdens report people being "let go " just about daily. Commodores selling OK but Im not sure they are making money.

[Hally]

The whole Australian automotive manufacturing industry is in a lot of trouble. Not just Holden and Ford, but the component suppliers as well. This space is going to see very sad new in the not too distant future.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by mr smith

People I know in Holdens report people being "let go " just about daily. Commodores selling OK but Im not sure they are making money.

And thats the issue. How can they continue to be profitable when they discount so much.

I know of engineers being let off, and leaving, let alone manufacturing.

[4Vman]

Holden have been clever to some degree by gradually and continually let people go on a daily basis rather than announce whole sale changes like this announcement, and like Ford have done....
Its created the perception that Holden have been traveling ok.. which they aren't..

[whales]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Holden have been clever to some degree by gradually and continually let people go on a daily basis rather than announce whole sale changes like this announcement, and like Ford have done....
Its created the perception that Holden have been traveling ok.. which they aren't..

Absolutley, They are very clever at Holden in keeping out of the news when they have bad news, but sure know how to get into the news when some thing good happens

[Wally]

Perfect time for both automakers to downsize their excess workforce without having too much union trouble. _2:

[BlackLS]

Holden - Go home

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by Wally

Perfect time for both automakers to downsize their excess workforce without having too much union trouble. _2:

+1 for QUOTE OF THE YEAR Maybe onto something..................Get rid of the full timers and replace with casual labor. Unions can't complain because they have no bargaining power. ' Whats that?, You are going on strike?, Oh well, see you all when this pesky financial thing is over' Or something like that.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by acosta32

+1 for QUOTE OF THE YEAR Maybe onto something..................Get rid of the full timers and replace with casual labor. Unions can't complain because they have no bargaining power. ' Whats that?, You are going on strike?, Oh well, see you all when this pesky financial thing is over' Or something like that.

They starting bringing in casual labour 2 years ago, there's heaps of them in our area now.

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

They starting bringing in casual labour 2 years ago, there's heaps of them in our area now.

Yeah, three month contracts and you have to get rid of them after 12 months. Union rules. Had some blokes come through that would have been perfect employees then 12 months comes up and POOF they are gone again. Makes my head hurt all the people that have come and gone the last 5 years.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by acosta32

Yeah, three month contracts and you have to get rid of them after 12 months .

Not anymore, we've had one guy who's been on a contract for nearly 18 months. They've changed it now. They have become open ended, not just for a certain amount of time.

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Not anymore, we've had one guy who's been on a contract for nearly 18 months. They've changed it now. They have become open ended, not just for a certain amount of time.

I am sure he sleeps better at night now............

Probably had to change the rules so they had labor to keep the engine plant running. Heard some good stories of engine plant employees finding other employment recently.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by acosta32

I am sure he sleeps better at night now............

Probably had to change the rules so they had labor to keep the engine plant running. Heard some good stories of engine plant employees finding other employment recently.

Its gotta suck knowing that you can be disposed of anytime the company feels like it. Feel sorry for them.

[paule11]

There are business in Townsville that have foreign workers mainly chinese filipino on 457 visas they put them in a house pay for their water electricity rent and take that out of their wages

[Lightning Strike GT]

Originally Posted by coupex

"Holden says there will be production closures at its plant in adelaide over the next four months because of the global financial turmoil."http://abc.com.au/news/stories/2008/10/14/2391085.htm

That is just the pits
The 3 big plants will probably be gone in the next 10 years
Mitsubishi in Adelaide has shut up shop no more large cars out of there Holden and Ford are on the way out with all these job cuts and climate change on the agenda
Sad time for the Australian Automotive industry.
Does Toyota make cars in Australia like they use to or are they all imported these days

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by BF XR8

That is just the pits
The 3 big plants will probably be gone in the next 10 years
Mitsubishi in Adelaide has shut up shop no more large cars out of there Holden and Ford are on the way out with all these job cuts and climate change on the agenda
Sad time for the Australian Automotive industry.
Does Toyota make cars in Australia like they use to or are they all imported these days

Toyota make the Camry and Aurion in Altona, but from what my mate who works for them says they are losing $2000 on every Camry they export, and exports make up a very large portion of their production, so things aren't so good there either.

Since Toyota makes the Camry in 7 other plants around the world it wouldn't be hard for them to shut up shop and just export it from somewhere else.

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by paule11

There are business in Townsville that have foreign workers mainly chinese filipino on 457 visas they put them in a house pay for their water electricity rent and take that out of their wages

So will we send back all the overseas workers now the economy is starting to slow down or do we keep them here and let them force down our conditions?

[GS608]

Originally Posted by acosta32

So will we send back all the overseas workers now the economy is starting to slow down or do we keep them here and let them force down our conditions?

tell em to flock off, Aussie jobs for aussie people, we need it more than they do

[WindsorXR]

Originally Posted by XR-CHIEF

tell em to flock off, Aussie jobs for aussie people, we need it more than they do

That sounds a bit racist, but as i think about it, it sorta does make sense. We have a lot of people move to Aus(Because Aus rocks) and it has taken away a lot of jobs as they can be hired and paid for less $$'s.
Australia has too many importing of goods as majority of Aussies don't trust aussie products.
It's either quality or cheap. Most Aussie products are in the middle.
People either get quality cars from Europe, quality electrics from Japan or they just get the nasty cheap stuff from China and Thailand.

Thats my opinion anyway.

[Gobes32]

Its time we look after ourselves,

Aussie Jobs For Aussie People
&
Aussie Products In Aussie Homes

[b2tf]

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