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06-11-2008, 12:53 PM
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Hey all.
I think I've damaged the engine in my XR again.  : There is a strange beeping sort of noise, that appears to be coming from the rocker area of the engine bay.Tried the screwdriver stethoscope trick, and I've narrowed it down to the Cylinder 5 area. Weird noise, just sort of goes Beep, beep, beep beep beep, beep. I'm suspecting another valve spring, (well I hope thats all it is) Whats your opinion?
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06-11-2008, 01:18 PM
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Whatever it is... GET IT FIXED BY NEXT WEEKEND! :P
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06-11-2008, 01:28 PM
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Yeah bro, I'm gonna try. I can't believe how this stuff happens just before trips like this.
Its very strange, generally from what i've heard. If a spring breaks, the car starts missing through the rev range, and in some cases drops the valve which of course is a bad thing. Problem is that the car is not missing at all. Its a bit rough at idle, but it always has been. I can't notice a change in how its running, except for this strange sort of beeping noise.
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06-11-2008, 02:06 PM
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Does anyone think this is a valvespring? Doesn't seem right to me.
I'll pull the rocker cover off and have a look, take a few pics.
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06-11-2008, 02:56 PM
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It doesnt sound like one mate but its very hard to diagnose without hearing them. Dont you have Crow springs in there anyway?
Could it be a noisy lifter? When was your last oil change?
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06-11-2008, 03:00 PM
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Oil changed yesterday, I thought that may have been a problem, but its probably worse after I changed it.
Crow springs, Yes in one cylinder lol. When it broke the spring in the smash repairers I only had the single one replaced. Lifter noise? I have no idea what it sounds like...
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06-11-2008, 03:03 PM
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 :  :Even if it isnt the spring spend the $100, get 7738 Springs from Crow and put em in!
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06-11-2008, 04:45 PM
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^^^ Lol, yeah didn't have funds at the time
Well I pulled the rocker covers off. Found no problems under there. All springs appeared to look ok, bit hard to tell. All rockers moved up and down in sync when I turned the engine over. All the pushrods are centred. Springs appear to be seated ok. I'm putting it back together right now and I'll see if I can pinpoint the noise again.
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07-11-2008, 07:30 AM
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Well next time, I'll spend a little more time diagnosing the location of the sound lol.
After pulling the top half off and inspecting everything, I found that it's all in tip top shape. So I re-assembled the car, started it and tried pinpointing the noise again. I could still hear the noise through cylinder 5, but whats underneith that on a V angle.... The bloody waterpump. Thats all it is, had me shittin bricks lol
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07-11-2008, 08:26 AM
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That's IT, I will be relieving you of your XR in Albury. It needs a better home
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07-11-2008, 08:43 AM
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07-11-2008, 09:00 AM
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Na uh, You want my XR you gotta get through Adam first
 . Besides I don't think he wants to walk home, (not that it'd do any harm lol) : j/k mateOn a more serious note though. After this scare with me thinking I'd rooted a valve spring, I think I'll take Austins and undoubtedly your advice russell, to change all the springs over to new ones. Its not worth the risk over a $100 saved. On a side note, does anyone know how to remove the pulley on the water pump?
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07-11-2008, 09:10 AM
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P.S ADAM - Clear your PM's mate, you message hoarder lol. Can't send you anything
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07-11-2008, 09:13 AM
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07-11-2008, 09:15 AM
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07-11-2008, 10:02 AM
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Mate I think I have some 7738 springs unused from when I did the heads. I'll check and get back to you.
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07-11-2008, 10:06 AM
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Appreciate that.Why didn't you use them though? Edelbrock heads had better springs did they?
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10-11-2008, 09:35 AM
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Any luck over the weekend?
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10-11-2008, 09:57 AM
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there is a pulley removal and refit tool you can get from auto shops james22
its like a castle shape
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10-11-2008, 11:06 AM
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Can't afford the pump and the petrol and associated costs together. If I replace the pump I'm out If I don;t replace the pump I could come, but 1200km on a rooted pump is asking for trouble. The last thing I want to do is cook my engine. So I'm preety ****ed off right now :
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10-11-2008, 11:09 AM
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Are you sure that there is a problem with the pump and it isn't just a squeaky pulley?
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10-11-2008, 11:17 AM
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Yeah nearly positive. I can hear the beeping sort of noise inside the car with the music on.
Used a long screwriver and sat it ontop of the waterpump housing, and you can clearly hear the evil sort of noise in there. P.S - I might try pulling the belt off, and turning it over by hand. It should spin preety freely right? If I can feel resistance when turning it that would nearly have to assure that its buggered right?
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10-11-2008, 11:56 AM
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Any other ways of testing if its buggered?
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10-11-2008, 01:09 PM
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Well if you turn it on the car and it was bugger'd i'd assume you would feel some inconsitantcy too it and that it would probably have a tighter spot in it, as for if squeaky pully, spray some crc down onto pulley and see if squeak goes away, just be careful though, although it shouldn't come off, i have seen the belt come off from people spraying crc on with engine running.
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Although a spray of CRC may just dislodge some gunk build up behind there.
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