Mazda claim new Diesel 6 is faster than local V8's

[colossus]

Was reading a review/news piece on the new Mazda 6 diesel that is coming to Aus in the paper today (think its Carsguide). In the article it states "Mazda claims the new 2.2-litre diesel will out accelerate the locally grown V8 performance sedans from Ford and Holden in fourth gear from 80km/h to 120km/h."

The new 6 is powered by a 2.2L turbo dieselwith 136kw @ 3500rpm and 400Nm from 1800-3000rpm and does 0-100km/h in 8.5secs.

What say you?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Doubt it...

[irlewy86]

My push bike out accelerates SS Commodores from 0-3 meters.

[pwr4ce]

In their dreams maybe!!

[GTP owner]

I wait for the proof, but i doubt it is true

[RED FGII]

who cares

[BrisVegas]

if you happen to be in the right gear (the Mazda 6 diesel is manual only) and waiting for a quick blast 80-120 it might go close. Great little engine, but not worth the paddling until they come out with a decent 6 spd auto or twin-clutch setup.

[Rodp]

That's respectable torque for a smaller car, could possibly give an 8 a run for its money.

[INASNT]

When Mazda brought out the 3 MPS they claimed it went from 100-130km/h or something quicker than a 911 porsche, which has no relevance in the real world just like the mazda claim.

Who the hell has a drag race from 100km/h to only 130km/h and then backs off

[bathurst77]

in 4th gear..

Ok I will knock the lever to 3rd then so

[BlackLS]

I can see the guy racing his Mazda6 Diesel with the pride of "being faster than local V8s".

3, 2, 1, GO.... "I'm winning, I'm winning! *V8 gets traction*...... oh :(......."

[TOM-CAT]

its a mazda.... who gives a damn?

[goof]

Its all about overtaking really, the whole point of the test
It wouldnt surprise me if it does accelerate that quick from 80-120, have you seen a vw golf 2.0 tdi overtake.

[2fishingdogs]

I take it that most V8 owner would be in 3 gear thru these speeds to get the grunt. Would 4 gear be a bit tall for them?

[TOM-CAT]

yeah if your going for FAST acceleration then you dont want to be in 4th for 80-120km, not in my brothers V8 at any rate...

[Spanrz]

This is the only way a diesel will ever beat a V8.........

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxsrV...eature=related

Diesel's rev only half that petrol motors..But the torque is heaps.
The data from Carsguide is only stating where the torque curve cuts in over the V8.

I think someone's pulling their pud on this one. I just don't like people trying to state things that is a **** factor.

So, does it mean that I will want to buy a Mazda simply because it can "overpower a V8" .... Mazda need a few psycologists there, simply because they have no idea what they are talking about.
Why would anyone want to buy a Mazda simply on those terms?

Mazda at lights, Ford F6 pulls up beside him.

Mazda : "yeah, wanna drag mate"

Ford : "pfffft, you for real"

Mazda "Yeah mate, she's gonna go mate"

Ford: "Ok Looser"

Mazda : "but 1 condition, I can only drag you at 80k's to 120k's"

Green light

Ford takes off, leaving the Mazda at the line to dream on!

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by BA Waggn

Diesel's rev only half that petrol motors..But the torque is heaps.

Have you been in a new model diesel ?
Here's mine (note redline), I'd like to see a Boss V8 double it....

[vztrt]

Whats so special about the interior??

[DanielXR8]

My Mazda 6 MPS is faster then the Falcon GT I owned. Mainly because the GT was parked in the service bay for a lot of time I owned it.

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Whats so special about the interior??

You are supposed to read, not just look at pictures....

[sgt_doofey]

Turbo Diesel's are all about the torque. I wouldn't be surprised if the Mazda was quicker in that scenario just to the huge amount of torque it would have at that RPM compared to a V8 which torque band would be totally different.
Our 307 has 320Nm of torque on tap from 1750rpm through to about 4000rpm.
To put the Mazda up against a F6 though, I think the F6 would kill it with it's 500+Nm on tap.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

You are supposed to read, not just look at pictures....

Ahh ok, so its a normal small high speed diesel motor. (yes i see the redline) Does it die in the *** like the Ranger diesel does at the top end?

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

You are supposed to read, not just look at pictures....

5k redline? Big deal, theres no point reving it that high anyway. Bet you dont rev past 3.5k 99% of the time....

[Rodp]

Just about any reputable motor mag has in-gear acceleration test as well as a ~80kph-120kph acceleration. If you ever plan on overtaking it's a hell of a lot more important than a 0-100kph figure. The 80-120 figures IMO are a lot more important when it comes to real world driving.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

5k redline? Big deal, theres no point reving it that high anyway. Bet you dont rev past 3.5k 99% of the time....

He was responding to this post

Diesel's rev only half that petrol motors..But the torque is heaps.

Here's mine (note redline), I'd like to see a Boss V8 double it....

A Boss V8 is not going to rev to 10k. That was the point he was trying to make I believe.

[Falcon Coupe]

Mitchay, gets a gold star for reading and comprehending.

[AUXRVIII]

I would be guessing the doubters in this thread have never driven a modern common rail diesel powered vehicle. The Focus TDCi has 320Nm of torque with a 6 speed manual, double clutch version coming. It's the torque you need to get going, power is for dyno queens, go and drive one, you will be totally surprised at how free revving they are and they will only get better.

[snappy]

Originally Posted by AUXRVIII

I would be guessing the doubters in this thread have never driven a modern common rail diesel powered vehicle. The Focus TDCi has 320Nm of torque with a 6 speed manual, double clutch version coming. It's the torque you need to get going, power is for dyno queens, go and drive one, you will be totally surprised at how free revving they are and they will only get better.

No doubt . But the mazda still has less torque than or aussie 8's

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by snappy84

No doubt . But the mazda still has less torque than or aussie 8's

It's 4 cylinders short of an 8 too, so it's a pretty good effort.

[duaned]

Gosh, my van has a 2.9L 5 cyl diesel in it and it sounds like it is going to spit apart at 3200rpm! Doesnt show a redline, but anything over 3200rpm will be expensive!