Where to buy E85 in Melbourne?

tickford2001 · 17-03-2009, 03:56 PM

Hi all,

Has anyone seen E85 for sale at the pump anywhere in Melbourne?

My understanding is that there is one servo at Hoppers Crossing that has it, but im hoping to find one out the South East side somewhere...

Anyone spotted it elsewhere, or can everyone keep a look out for it

Cheers,
Dave

**ebxr8240** · 17-03-2009, 04:15 PM

Or out west Sydney ??

EDManual · 17-03-2009, 04:25 PM

why would you want that? ! I'd stay away like the plague. Bad for the environment, food prices etc etc...

TadKa · 17-03-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EDManual

why would you want that? ! I'd stay away like the plague. Bad for the environment, food prices etc etc...

I don't think they were asking for your opinion. Perhaps we should stick to answering the op's question if possible instead of starting another Ethanol bashing thread.

ivorya · 17-03-2009, 07:19 PM

isn't there a United servo that has/ or is about to set up for E85 in Vic?

I'm sure United lobbied the Gov to allow them to supply E85 just when Saaaaarrrbbbb released details of there E85 capable vehicle at a motor show.

Jump on the United website, surely there will be some info on it.

XR6_190 · 17-03-2009, 07:59 PM

I didn't think that there were any places in Australia selling this stuff, It would be good if they did start bringing it out here, save more of the normal stuff for us enthusiasts.

**redxm** · 17-03-2009, 08:21 PM

from http://www.flexfuelkit.com.au/articl...car/Page1.html
E85 based on Manildra ethanol :

Shoalhaven Ethanol Fuel
215 Kinghorne St
Nowra NSW 2540

Ethanol Fuel
(near McDonald's) 251 Princes Highway
Albion Park NSW 2527

Sydney Metro
2 Rawson St
Granville 2142

Sydeny Metro
987 Hume Highway
Lansdowne 2163

Sydney Metro
Foristville Ethanol
Warringah Road just north of the Coles Express Station. (to be verified)

E85 based on CSR ethanol

Sydney Metro
United Service Station
127 Victoria Rd
Rozelle NSW Sydney

SAFF (South Australian Farmers Frederation in SA) & ENFFUE

Enffue Mawson Lakes
Salisbury Highway Mawson Lakes SA

SAFF Parkholme OPEN 24 HOURS
646 Marion Road, Parkholme SA 5043
Phone: 08 8276 4882

Victoria:

Hopper Crosssing
160 Old Geelong Road
HOPPERS CROSSING VIC 3029

XRtowcar · 17-03-2009, 09:49 PM

Don't use it unless your fuel system has been modded to cope with its ability to destroy rubber hoses.

XR6_190 · 17-03-2009, 09:54 PM

Gee, more than I thought, but only the one in VIC.

Just out of curiosity, What sort of car are you intending on putting this stuff into?

FPV8U · 18-03-2009, 09:45 AM

What octane is this E85?

tickford2001 · 18-03-2009, 10:24 AM

thanks for the replies guys, seems Hoppers is the only place in Melbourne to get it from the pump...surely it cant be too much longer!

Quote:

Just out of curiosity, What sort of car are you intending on putting this stuff into?

race car - this stuff is great, makes slightly more power, much more torque, runs cooler, cheaper than race fuel, and its virtually idiot proof (?!) as far as tuning goes...can handle much more timing without detonation

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Don't use it unless your fuel system has been modded to cope with its ability to destroy rubber hoses.

doesnt seem to be a problem with tank/hoses/pump/etc on late model fords yet, the boys down at the blue oval garage have been playing with it for over 12 months and have had no dramas, including a "dummy setup" to test for deterioration of factory hoses/seals etc. both submersed and wet/dry situations. Time will tell though, 12 months isnt that long in car life terms (unless its a daihatsu

).

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What octane is this E85?

im not exactly sure mate, and all the people selling it say different things! on the united flyer it says 130 (lol), i have seen it elsewhere saying 115+, and others saying 105+. There are different blends getting around that probably have different ratings as well. Another variable is what fuel its blended with...some are blended with 91RON, some with 95, and some with 98...

its all over the place at the moment, so its buyer beware, but so far for my applications it seems to be as good as most race fuels but with pump fuel pricing

**Polyal** · 18-03-2009, 10:52 AM

^^thats win win, what car do you race with it?

FPV8U · 18-03-2009, 10:55 AM

130 sounds good :P

Even if the Fuel does kill hoses, for the performance advantage when this stuff goes mainstream i'd get my fuel system converted and reap the benifits.

Mr Hardware · 18-03-2009, 11:03 AM

haha
e85, what a joke
you'll find it's characteristics very similar to LPG
without the price benefit
ie low energy, high octane fuel
you need to modify your car to take it
and at the end of the day, you're better off going LPG.

Qwik6 · 18-03-2009, 11:08 AM

Gonna run my EB with a worked 6 on it soon. Been told the factory hose will be fine.
I need a bigger pump & injectors to run it tho.

I've heard of a guy with a Falcon Saloon car that has used E85 and produced 200rwkws+

HLC · 18-03-2009, 04:34 PM

for all of those dissing E85, check the TerminatorS thread in the AU Workshop Build Section.

500+rwkw from a blown 4.6L Boss V8 on e85....

FPV8U · 18-03-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

haha
e85, what a joke
you'll find it's characteristics very similar to LPG
without the price benefit
ie low energy, high octane fuel
you need to modify your car to take it
and at the end of the day, you're better off going LPG.

Im just not that keen on the big BBQ gas cylinder in the boot :togo:

tickford2001 · 18-03-2009, 04:55 PM

and for some of us the BBQ gas cylinder isnt an option...

(not that i would consider it an option anyway)

**Peuty** · 18-03-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

haha
e85, what a joke
you'll find it's characteristics very similar to LPG
without the price benefit
ie low energy, high octane fuel
you need to modify your car to take it
and at the end of the day, you're better off going LPG.

We get it mate, you like taxi's and LPG. Stop reminding us already.

Need_a_V8 · 18-03-2009, 05:31 PM

Ethanol produces 30% less energy than standard unleaded fuel, so the higher octane rating is really negligable.

I've seen LS1 guys get a tune for it and a new fuel system and gain only 10rwkw over the factory tune, which is less than they would gain from a tune for standard unleaded. Yet it cost them more and really limits their fuel options.

**CAT600** · 18-03-2009, 05:38 PM

Anyone bagging E85 has not done enough research. Go and find out, then come back and comment. If anyone thinks that putting E85 in your 182kw BA Fairmont will turn it into a V8 supercar needs a reality check.

Different fuels have inheirant strengths and weaknesses. In this case, E85 + Boost = UNBEATABLE.

Daniel

Typhoon WR · 15-10-2009, 04:11 PM

I'm keen to learn about E85 with a modified fuel system in a turbo initially a cheapy. Might provide a post petrol way to keep the F6

Robos F6 · 15-10-2009, 11:40 PM

Since the V8 Supercars are using E85 this year, why didnt they produce anymore power than last year running 98??

SLO AU XR8 · 16-10-2009, 12:01 AM

Reliability. They also make more torque now!

RspecAU · 12-11-2009, 07:53 PM

I ran the tank low in the EB today and put $30 of E85 at 99.9 in and got half a tank, when was last time anyone did that on 30 dollars?
At first it was ok then after 10 k and a few hours sitting it did run a little ruff and stalled once. I drove it for about five minutes having to stall up the car to keep it running at traffic lights and keep the foot flat to the floor on and off, it now seems to be idling fine.
Will take it out later for a run down the freeway to see how it is, i'll post more after i do this. Oh and i have made no mods to run this.

**Bundy** · 12-11-2009, 08:02 PM

I also had a good run running methanol with my stock car, runs cool, heaps of performance gains there too, more timing needed, no effect on rubber hoses and Orings, but your bound by the rules of the class your running in as to what fuels you can use. Was great for me at the time, I remember paying $185 for a 200L drum when petrol was a $1.10 a litre.....them was the days eh

FPV8U · 12-11-2009, 08:06 PM

Any Updates on when E85 will be becoming a more realistic option?

I.E Daily Driven or Weekend Warrior as at the moment unless you want to buy it by the Drum and store it, it's not practical.

Decent 98 is hard to get where i live so i won't be holding my breath.

RspecAU · 12-11-2009, 09:19 PM

Well didn't get to the freeway but took a spin around werribee. The car dose hesitate on take of like it almost stall then bursts into life and sometimes will idle a little ruff but all in all it feels good. Feels like it could use a tune and maybe some hotter spark plugs. This something that could do with more testing

After a quick search E85 is still only available in Hoppers Crossing

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MOTIV8 · 14-11-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tickford2001

race car - this stuff is great, makes slightly more power, much more torque, runs cooler, cheaper than race fuel, and its virtually idiot proof (?!) as far as tuning goes...can handle much more timing without detonation

tickford2001 me a buzz if you want some I have a source who sells it by the 200ltr drum if you want it for the race cars. It is the same stuff that V8SC use as he is the only official supplier to the paddock. Only prob is that is is more expensive than the regular pump fuel price.

Cheers
Sean

superroo · 14-11-2009, 06:53 PM

www.racefuels.com.au

Distributed through "Race Components" in south Melbourne, and have a pickup depot in dandenong.
They sell it in 20L and 200L drums, no pumps as such.

And if you’re not happy, they have plenty of other wicked fuel to tickle your fancy.

100 octane leaded anyone?
99.9% methanol?

Cheers