Ive Had It!!

Ibrox90 · 17-08-2009, 08:10 PM

SO I drove to Melbourne from Adelaide (see other topic).

And on the way back near Tailem bend i accelerated lightly (it really was lightly) from 80 aiming for 110 wen i got to about 90 the trans went to change gear (i think) revved to about 5000and then BOOM, Pulled over and looked under the car and the underside between the rear wheels everything was coated in oil and there was oil dripping (rather fast) onto the ground. so i came to the conclusion that my diff bush exploded. I limped it back home South Adelaide.

Im at the end of my teather with this car.

ive had the car for less than 2 months and since then:

Engine rattle turned out to be pinging still not fixed

clunky driveline diffbush replaced

drivers window makes huge amounts of noise

cant hold a wheels balence for 1000km

handbrake needs constant readjusting and makes lots of noise

power steering grind and i lose loads of fluid.

now i love this car dont be confused by that but im at the end of my teather it hasnt cost me alot yet however what happens post warranty?????

Now i plan on ringing consumer affairs tomorrow to see where i stand

Now I'd like this to go 3 ways:

1. full refund (unlikely) and they can have my pride and joy

2. huge rebate, I keep my car

3. Car swap they give me an aussie V8 they keep my XR8 (xr8, SS, Monaro, HSV, FPV Whatever)

Now what do you guys think i should do and where do i stand with the dealer???

Iggypoppin' · 17-08-2009, 08:14 PM

What??? None of your options will occur. None of the car brands are "Aussie" v8's as the FPV v8 is an American truck block with mustang heads, and hsv is chevrolet based. Unless you get vs and back hsv vehicle.

It would seem you have a possible lemon. My advice? Chuck some coin at it to repair the broken bits and sell her off for a newer better model. Costs you $$ now but saves you $$ later.

Your dealer wants to make money, not give you money cos your car broke down. They'd take one look at you and think " p plater+ xr8= thrashes it, " despite what you would say in protest.

Auslandau · 17-08-2009, 08:18 PM

If its under warranty ..... go to the dealer and sort it out before anything else. Don't threaten them with Current affair or who ever. If its under warranty, theoretically you should be OK. 1, 2 & 3 won't happen so put those things out of your head.

By the way .... whats an 'Aussie' V8 .... a Cleveland? Would be a worth while swap though.

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Iggypoppin' · 17-08-2009, 08:23 PM

Even that isn't "Aussie" though is it? Only holdens 308 and 253 are truly cast in aus, IIRC. Correct me if wrong.

But auslandau is right if you have warranty you should be able to get it fixed.

Green X · 17-08-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrox90

SO I drove to Melbourne from Adelaide (see other topic).

Pulled over and looked under the car and the underside between the rear wheels everything was coated in oil and there was oil dripping (rather fast) onto the ground. so i came to the conclusion that my diff bush exploded.

the diff bush is rubber and don't seal oil so even if it did explode which is impossible how would it cause such a massive oil leak?

Ibrox90 · 17-08-2009, 08:31 PM

Getting it fixed wont be a problem my question is though. What else is going to go wrong??

Iggypoppin' · 17-08-2009, 08:33 PM

Nip it in the bud mate. Fix and sell, get a better one. With hopefully fewer problems..

Auslandau · 17-08-2009, 08:36 PM

Again theoretically ..... If a new piece replaces the broken piece, the new piece should be better than the broken one thus making things unbroken. The trick though is to find IF there is a reason why the piece that broke, broke.

Its a bummer when things don't go right but sometimes with a second hand car that may or may not have had a hard life previously, you just need to persevere until all is good again. If, once fixed and you are not confident in it, you may need to bite the bullet and move it on.

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Ibrox90 · 17-08-2009, 08:41 PM

im going to try and twist the dealers arm and see where I can get failing that ill keep it and throw money at it keep it till im old and grey.

Windsor220 · 17-08-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by auslandau

Its a bummer when things don't go right but sometimes with a second hand car that may or may not have had a hard life previously, you just need to persevere until all is good again. If, once fixed and you are not confident in it, you may need to bite the bullet and move it on.

This is true. Buying something like an XR8 means you have to expect the car to have a harder than normal life. Once everythings fixed atleast you know its been done and your not buying another car with other potential problems.

Oh and by the way, just because its from a dealer dont expect it to be in any better condition. Used car departments quite often wont repair a problem in hope of the customer not noticing until after warranty.

4Vman · 17-08-2009, 08:51 PM

Out of curiosity how many k's has it done??

**Polyal** · 17-08-2009, 09:02 PM

Sounds to me like you picked up a tired BA, which sucks. BA1's had problems from the start so they are not about to cure themselves.

Engine rattle turned out to be pinging still not fixed - could be anything if you dont know the history

clunky driveline diffbush replaced- normal

drivers window makes huge amounts of noise - ??? cant be a hard fix

cant hold a wheels balence for 1000km - who checks it for you?

handbrake needs constant readjusting and makes lots of noise - BA issue

power steering grind and i lose loads of fluid. - change the pump its old

Used car warranties are not worth the toilet paper they are scribbled on.

4Vman · 17-08-2009, 09:05 PM

Yes.. most used car warranties have more exclusion clauses than covered items... and even then they only cover things for complete or catastrophic failure with a capped limit of expenses, most normal wear and tear isnt covered.....
How many k's does the car have on it???

Ibrox90 · 17-08-2009, 09:26 PM

its had 78k wen I bought it and 80k last thursday now has 82k (took the long way from melbourne)

Iggypoppin' · 17-08-2009, 09:29 PM

that's real bad luck and low k's really for so much to go wrong.. My ba handbrake and diff didn't go silly till 100klm+

Auslandau · 17-08-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NJXR6

that's real bad luck and low k's really for so much to go wrong.. My ba handbrake and diff didn't go silly till 100klm+

You were lucky .... gave up on mine years ago. P means handbrake!

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4Vman · 17-08-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NJXR6

that's real bad luck and low k's really for so much to go wrong.. My ba handbrake and diff didn't go silly till 100klm+

Not really... 80'k's is getting up there, every Falcon ive ever owned turned into a maintenance headache around 80-100'k's...

GT · 17-08-2009, 09:36 PM

If you bought the car from a Licensed Motor Vehicle Dealer in SA you are legally entitled to Stat. Warranty for 3 months or 5000 kms (whichever occurs first). From reading your post, you will qualify for this. The dealer has to repair the car and the law is tough on this. I used to work for 2 of the main Ford Dealers in Adelaide and I know this is the case.

Get the car back to the Dealer and take a witness with you (preferably a mature adult) and also take the Used Car Declaration that you were handed with the other paperwork when you purchased the car - they had to give you a copy of this by Law and will have breached it if they didn't give it to you. PM me if you want any help with how to approach them.

Regards
Gaela

geckoGT · 17-08-2009, 09:37 PM

I highly doubt it is the diff bush failing again, more like something not right when it was put back together.

What has been looked at to sort out the pinging?

Drivers window probably just needs a bit of graphite powder to lubricate it, I bet it is slow too.

Handbrakes can be fixed if you can find someone that can be stuffed doing it properly. I spent some time learning how to do my BAII GT handbrake and never had a problem again.

I can not see how a car can constantly lose wheel balance, sounds more like the person doing the balance to me. Having said that, on my BAII GT and BAI XR8 I had wheel shudder that felt like a balance issue, got the wheels checked a number of times. Then one day I jacked up one front wheel on the GT and I could feel the side to side play in the steering, turned out to be a rack end ball joint on the left side. Replaced that and the problem was gone. I checked the XR 8 and it had the same problem, same side, both were coming up to 100,000km. I would check yours. Easy to do, jack up one wheel at a time and give it a shake, there should be no free play. If there is you just have to work out if it is at the tie rod end or rack end. Feel for free play at the tie rod end, if it is not there it will be the rack end. You may have to pull the rubber boot back to have a look.

Power steer is either rack or pump, both are a bit on the weak side in falcons, can't see why you can't claim that.

genebaby · 17-08-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Not really... 80'k's is getting up there, every Falcon ive ever owned turned into a maintenance headache around 80-100'k's...

If you took a drive in my car you would not believe your eyes then....

phillyc · 17-08-2009, 09:45 PM

IIRC In one of your first posts, someone said they looked at that car and went nope... Reckoning it had been flogged hard.

Sorry to see you having troubles though.

snappy · 17-08-2009, 10:31 PM

Sorry to say mate i think this is a big part of the problem.

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Originally Posted by Ibrox90

Like to point out i didnt buy the car like that. it had a major overhaul between me veiwing the car and me picking it up.

interesting notes:

found out some info in the car

It had a blown radiator when i looked at it at first.
most of its kms were done at mallalar
It arrived at the dealer with slicks on (it was a mallalar toy)
the ECU is not standard and is worth $4k

I wish you luck though regardless

Iggypoppin' · 17-08-2009, 10:36 PM

man she's had a hard life...

Ibrox90 · 17-08-2009, 10:42 PM

well yes hard life im aware of i think its more the dealers ability and attitude towards repair that frustrates me.

sly_ba · 17-08-2009, 10:45 PM

Sounds like the Auto has blown a line, the oil will most likely be ATF..... Is the auto still slipping??

snappy · 17-08-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrox90

well yes hard life im aware of i think its more the dealers ability and attitude towards repair that frustrates me.

Is the warranty tied to that dealer , There is a quite a few dealers dead set on making a bad name for the brand involved . But there are few good ones around i hearso if you not tied to that dealer find one that provides you with the service you desire.

**Polyal** · 17-08-2009, 11:07 PM

Just for the record on used car warranties. A close friend of mine who is not shy of $$ is actually taking a dealer to court; doesn't have to but is on principle.

Just brought a used Audi A6, tranny went pop 2 weeks into ownership, got it quoted and replaced and now the dealership wont pay as they state "we would have taken it somewhere else". Total bill was $7k.

I hope something good happens as IMO dealers get away with murder with these "warranties".

GT · 17-08-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Just for the record on used car warranties. A close friend of mine who is not shy of $$ is actually taking a dealer to court; doesn't have to but is on principle.

Just brought a used Audi A6, tranny went pop 2 weeks into ownership, got it quoted and replaced and now the dealership wont pay as they state "we would have taken it somewhere else". Total bill was $7k.

I hope something good happens as IMO dealers get away with murder with these "warranties".

The problem with this poor guys situation (Audi A6), is that the law says he must take it back to the Dealer for them to have repaired. By going elsewhere for the repair, he has not given the Dealer the opportunity to correct the situation. If the Dealer refused to repair it, then he would have a case, but ONLY if the Dealer refused to do so. What you must remember is that the Dealer would probably have got the job done for a lot less than the $7K as these used car warranty jobs are done at 'wholesale' rates for labour and parts.

Gaela

**Polyal** · 17-08-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GTGTP

The problem with this poor guys situation (Audi A6), is that the law says he must take it back to the Dealer for them to have repaired. By going elsewhere for the repair, he has not given the Dealer the opportunity to correct the situation. If the Dealer refused to repair it, then he would have a case, but ONLY if the Dealer refused to do so. What you must remember is that the Dealer would probably have got the job done for a lot less than the $7K as these used car warranty jobs are done at 'wholesale' rates for labour and parts.

Gaela

True, its not a money thing at all he doesn't care; its the attitude of the dealer in question.

Your right they probably could have got in done cheaper at "their" shop, but id take a wild stab and say it would not be the best repair they could find if you know what I mean.

From what I remember (heard the story the other week), the dealer even refused 50/50. I probably only know half the story but still, hope he gets cleaned up.

WASP · 17-08-2009, 11:46 PM

Sorry to hear what has happened. Unfortunately for many of us that have been there done that at some stage, this vehicle has all the usual warning signs of being a money pity of on going trouble due it wear and tear. I don't think it's because of the km's, more the way it got there. I've seen plenty BA XR8's and GT models with higher kms in excellent, reliable condition.

My advice would be to fix what you can, make it reliable as possible and trade it in. You will loose money for use, but you will probably loose more if you hang in there.

I don't know what you paid for this car, but with these modern V8's it doesn't pay to buy cheap, high km models with an unknown history and multiple owners. See if you can find one with only one owner, has a passion for their car, has service history and is clearly well kept. Even if the km's are on the higher side, will the other boxes ticked you should end up with a much better example. You will pay more but I think you need to with these cars (XR, SS, FPV's HSV's etc)

Colville