Panel Bonding Glue/Adhesive??

[Kowalski]

As the title indicates, has anyone here used it?
Is it any good?
Where would you get it?
Is it expensive?
That's probably enough questions for now

[yift]

is it the same stuff the car mufacturers are using on turrents etc?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Sikaflex or something else?

[svo347]

+1 for sikaflex

[gazza414]

There are various grades so be sure to choose wisely..also be very careful of the preparation too.....

[platinumXR]

I'm partial to Henkel Terostat...good fillers & bonders. Better than Sika I reckon. I have been reliably informed that Ford use Teroson too.

Prices aren't too bad, try Bursons - although they mainly carry Sika from memory. Google panel beating supplies etc. and see what comes up.

[Kowalski]

Just to clarify, this is the glue that is now used to bond panels.
Intending to maybe use it to bond some replacement quarters to the XP van rather than welding. Is this the same stuff you guys are talking about?

[yift]

sikaflex wont do it but the stuff i was on about there is aspecial process from memory you need some special high temp oven for it. not worth it weld it, lead wipe it and spray it is my opinion.

[platinumXR]

Originally Posted by Kowalski

Just to clarify, this is the glue that is now used to bond panels.
Intending to maybe use it to bond some replacement quarters to the XP van rather than welding. Is this the same stuff you guys are talking about?

Well, it's what I am on about:

[Yellow_Festiva]

When I visited the PRB factory in Chullora they used an adhesive that looked a bit like an epoxy resin. Was a 2 part glue, and was applied direct from whatever canister it was stored in, and they had about 30 min before the product set.

Don't remember them mentioning any special oven etc. They used it to glue the joins on the composite fibre Clubmans. After they were glued, they were then reinforced with steel fixtures and rivets.

The stuff was so strong that if you used it to glue 2 panels together, pulling them apart would shear the steel before the join parted.

As for the name, sorry can't help you.

I'm sure it is a similar glue to what panel beaters use to glue new roof sections onto repaired cars. When the Festiva went in for hail damage, the roof was removed, the new one was glued back in, then the original spot welds were re-done.

[Kowalski]

Thanks guys,
platinumXR, I have a couple of questions for you......
Can the stuff you've suggested be readily found?
Does it need any special tools/oven/process? Or could I use it at home?
Thanks again

[svo347]

Sorry mate i was thinking about applying body kits to cars etc..

[platinumXR]

Originally Posted by Kowalski

Thanks guys,
platinumXR, I have a couple of questions for you......
Can the stuff you've suggested be readily found?
Does it need any special tools/oven/process? Or could I use it at home?
Thanks again

Nup, any good panelbeating suppliers should have it or be able to get it easily - Google is your friend.

I just use a caulking gun for mine (9320 - 4 In One filler) and most are air dry and you can weld over them. The bonders are stronger than welding as well, I know as I have seen first hand.

Give Peter Weinert - Business Development Specialist (Auto Body) from Henkel Aust. a call on 0418364180 (Seven Hills, Sydney) if you need any expert technical advice.

There's some tecnical data sheets available at: http://www.loctite.com.au/cps/rde/xc...4_AUS_HTML.htm just choose the product number, eg: 9320 and just type it in.

[platinumXR]

I just looked up 9220 and it is air curing but you can heat it up to cure faster if necessary.

Honestly, if you are still unsure: give Peter a call.

[Kowalski]

Thanks mate, massive help!