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Old 08-01-2011, 08:35 PM   #1
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Default NSW Xmas toll more then halved - police presence?

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NSW drivers are finally getting the message as police announce that the holiday road toll has been more than halved.
The NSW police Operation Safe Arrival ended on Friday with a road toll of 10, less than half of the previous year's toll of 22.
Police Minister Michael Daley called the figures "very very good results" but urged people not to forget the 10 families suffering after this year's deaths.
"Let's get the figure down to zero next year," he told reporters in Sydney on Saturday.
The minister said there were 535 fewer major crashes over this holiday period compared to last year - resulting in almost 200 fewer injuries.
"That's 200 fewer families that won't go through a life of misery," he said.
"There's been a massively increased police presence.
"The police conducted over this holiday road period 463,000 random breath tests.
"It has reaped huge benefits - 451 fewer people charged this holiday period compared to last year. People are finally starting to get the message that it's just not OK to drink and drive," he said.
Police charged 13,000 people with speeding - down more than 2000 compared to last year.
"There were police all over NSW on major roads and backstreets over the holiday period and we'll keep that up over the rest of January to make sure families get home safe," he said.
Detective Inspector J.J. Cassar told reporters the next operation will be for January 20-26 - the period leading up to and including Australia Day.
AAP's national Christmas road toll figures are for the period 0001 December 17 to 2359 January 3. Some states and territories have different periods.
ANZPAA (the Australia New Zealand Police Advisory Agency) advises its road toll period is effective from 0001 December 24 till 2359 January 7.
So NSW hails police presence, QLD hails speed cameras (fail)... I hope these statements mean something for the NSW govt making claims about preventing road tolls...

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Old 08-01-2011, 10:23 PM   #2
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A great result but in contrast the only thing even close to law enforcement I saw around my local area over the Christmas/New Year break was that bloody speed camera Territory.
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:17 AM   #3
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Strong Aussie Dollar => Cheaper to go overseas than to hit the road => Lower Road Toll?
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:21 AM   #4
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Yeah there was a huge police presence in and around my area, got picked up a couple of times in really odd spots where they wouldn't normally be, so good on em.

Surprised they didn't thank it on the mobile speed cameras and safety cameras.
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I found that one day, within a 20km trip i went past at least 13 police vehicles, one of which was hiding at the bottom of a bridge going downhill behind a bush under an overpass with his little gun.....

Never seen that amount in my life.
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Good news its down, but im happy to be a sceptic, probably just luck as ive seen tons of heavily policed holiday seasons over the years where road toll records have been broken for the worse.
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I dont know about you guys but i have noticed the roads and shops for that matter to be unusually quiet for this time of year i put that down to 2 things;

Ppl that can afford to go away have gone overseas due to the crazy bargains overseas right now and the strong $AUD i mean its cheaper to go to Hawaii than Canberra these days so why wouldent you.

And ppl who are struggling are staying home and that is what has led to the lower road toll.
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Old 09-01-2011, 11:55 AM   #8
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A great result but in contrast the only thing even close to law enforcement I saw around my local area over the Christmas/New Year break was that bloody speed camera Territory.
Same.
Always the same one with the same guy.... he must have a boring work life.
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I dont know about you guys but i have noticed the roads and shops for that matter to be unusually quiet for this time of year i put that down to 2 things;

Ppl that can afford to go away have gone overseas due to the crazy bargains overseas right now and the strong $AUD i mean its cheaper to go to Hawaii than Canberra these days so why wouldent you.

And ppl who are struggling are staying home and that is what has led to the lower road toll.
Listen to this guy, cause he knows what he's talking about.

But I also noticed more police presence around Victoria too, I ran into a couple of 1 car breath tests on roads you'd never see them. These roads mainly being alternative (but longer) ways to get from A to B without using the freeway.

Good on them for being out and about but screw anyone who says it's because of speed cameras. Total rubbish!
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I dont know about you guys but i have noticed the roads and shops for that matter to be unusually quiet for this time of year i put that down to 2 things;

Ppl that can afford to go away have gone overseas due to the crazy bargains overseas right now and the strong $AUD i mean its cheaper to go to Hawaii than Canberra these days so why wouldent you.

And ppl who are struggling are staying home and that is what has led to the lower road toll.
While I feel the increased police presence would have had an impact, I think bigsta has hit the nail on the head here. Combine that with the fact 2009 scared a lot of people, and they just want to save money now. As people buy more on the internet, they don't need to do that rush trip to the shops.

Spot on fella.
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:26 PM   #11
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Nearly the whole east of australia is flooded and has been for a month or more ! where would anyone drive to . There is noone on the roads at all from what i have seen , ghost highways . Just more back patting and high fives without any facts as usual
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Nearly the whole east of australia is flooded and has been for a month or more ! where would anyone drive to . There is noone on the roads at all from what i have seen , ghost highways . Just more back patting and high fives without any facts as usual
They were talking about NSW not QLD, little or no flooding over the xmas break. Not a lot of rain either except for northern NSW Ballina and north. Many people lost their lives on the Pacific Hwy over the last 50 years but thankfully a huge improvement means there are now very few deaths between Sydney and Kempsey. We just need the rest to be finished and that figure will be lower again. Police patrols are a far better way to reduce the toll we all know that. Finally the idea might be sinking in to the authorities.
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Old 10-01-2011, 08:20 AM   #13
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Strong Aussie Dollar => Cheaper to go overseas than to hit the road => Lower Road Toll?
Not necessarily.
PAX numbers have been down due to the unusually cold conditions in Europe and the USA.
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I am all for more police on the road, and mobile police are a far better deterent than hidden money machines , thats been done to death . but on the holiday period ( and i am saying this without any collected facts) that qlders go south and south comes north in droves , usually all the holiday and tourist towns run out of room /booked out etc etc .now all i was sort of saying is there are way more reasons why road tolls go up and down and whether its finances , floods ,or police .
i just get a bit peeved when they say they saved this many because we did this blah blah blah ,knee jerk rational to introduce more cameras .
It is a positive thing that less are dying ,but it wont mean more wont die next year ...sorry for my rant but i hate statistics .
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My mate and I drove down the coast from Canberra. We saw one undercover on the way down and one marked on the way back. Did not see any other police cars other than that at all.

Having said that my other mate who came down on NYE ran into 3 RBTs on the same route whereas years gone by there was not even one.
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I saw about 8 cop cars today. I think it was a record.
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