HSV to get camaro engine

lowfly · 24-03-2011, 12:50 AM

Just noticed on the front cover of wheels mag today about hsv getting the camaro engine. I thought they used the same ls3 6.2 or are they using the engine from the caddy or the zr1 vette. Couldn't flick through it as it was sealed up with another mag.
Is this a counter attack on our new V8 already ?

Linkachu · 24-03-2011, 01:54 AM

I thought they'd start looking for a 7L V8 to counter the coyote =P

FG XR · 24-03-2011, 03:01 AM

All rumors. Doubt they will get zr1 engine, be too expensive

theboxmike · 24-03-2011, 03:06 AM

Simply Wheels trying to get Holden Folk Excited because of Fords 5.0 Coyote.

FGX-351 · 24-03-2011, 03:27 AM

Speculation, won't happen until after next facelift at the earliest.

They also wont go from their current 325kw rating to the over 400kw rating of the LSA in one jump either.

cheap · 24-03-2011, 08:46 AM

There is the Walkinshaw blower option, with warranty. Some HSV dealers offer this to their customers (apparently).

EgoFalcon · 24-03-2011, 09:00 AM

I thought the zr1 used a 6.2 litre supercharged v8 and another version used an N/A 7.0L

naddis01 · 24-03-2011, 09:01 AM

They are talking about the LSA - 415kw and 747Nm - from the ZL1 Camaro. It is also fitted to the CTS-V.

The whole article is speculation at best.

burnz · 24-03-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EgoFalcon

I thought the zr1 used a 6.2 litre supercharged v8 and another version used an N/A 7.0L

ZR1 uses LS9 6.2l supercharged (screw)
LSA 6.2l supercharged (roots)

7.0l was same as used W427

vibe_xr6 · 24-03-2011, 11:00 AM

i can see the government pulling up the manufactors of these performance vechile very soon, these games between holden and ford performance are not going to stop, in ten years they will most likely be pushing 600+rwkw stock. i can see it ending very soon !

Hulsty · 24-03-2011, 11:22 AM

why? So the government is going to go to Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche and tell them they cannot build a car with x amount of kilowatts too?

If they cars meet all relevant ADR's whats the issue.

vibe_xr6 · 24-03-2011, 11:25 AM

well whats the need of 600+rwkw on the street? anyway im not here to argue, im just gunna sit back and watch, everyone is excited about the new 335, that wont be nothing in another few years. there will be more and more, im not on the goverments side, but i can see it happening

FGII-XR6 · 24-03-2011, 11:31 AM

they won't be able to do it without banning performance imports as well that would breach free trade agreements we have in place

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Originally Posted by vibe_xr6

well whats the need of 600+rwkw on the street? anyway im not here to argue, im just gunna sit back and watch, everyone is excited about the new 335, that wont be nothing in another few years. there will be more and more, im not on the goverments side, but i can see it happening

b2tf · 24-03-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vibe_xr6

well whats the need of 600+rwkw on the street? anyway im not here to argue, im just gunna sit back and watch, everyone is excited about the new 335, that wont be nothing in another few years. there will be more and more, im not on the goverments side, but i can see it happening

I agree with you, this is 30 years ago happening all over again.

....................but enjoy it while it lasts!

mik · 24-03-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hulsty

why? So the government is going to go to Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche and tell them they cannot build a car with x amount of kilowatts too?

If they cars meet all relevant ADR's whats the issue.

i think they are less worried about lambo/ferrari owners as there won`t be too many bogans in them doing burnouts in the macca`s /7-11 car parks, the issue to those that make the laws is the the big power falcadores are accessible to most beer swilling, football loving, collingwood supporters(i mean that in the kindest possible way

, big power exotics are not usually.

Falcman0o7 · 24-03-2011, 12:07 PM

it's all WRONG!!!

HSV is going to use a 13.5 ci v12 to go head to head with fords 5.0

burnz · 24-03-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

they won't be able to do it without banning performance imports as well that would breach free trade agreements we have in place

the last time holden and ford got into a power war,
the government punched both their lights out without any affect on imports..

gtho p3 and slr torana/ gtr xu1 torana,, they were the little storms in a tea cup.

flappist · 24-03-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vibe_xr6

well whats the need of 600+rwkw on the street? anyway im not here to argue, im just gunna sit back and watch, everyone is excited about the new 335, that wont be nothing in another few years. there will be more and more, im not on the goverments side, but i can see it happening

Well what is the need for:

2005 xr6 in vibe colour, extractors, high flow cat, redback 2.5 inch cat back, big mouth induction+typhoon lower snorkle and a little bit of custom work, fusion sub and speakers, 20 inch xhp rims, polished ecu and rocket cover, lowered on superlows & gt monroe shocks, full respray, soon to come custom tune, xr8 bonnet

Surely a Yaris is all you want........

vibe_xr6 · 24-03-2011, 12:19 PM

wow well thats nothing i knew, and to think they have the guts to try again in that case, and to answer your question fuel economy mate, and not only that, whats 160?rwkw gunna do?

Road_Warrior · 24-03-2011, 12:21 PM

More Holden ****ing from Wheels. By the time this engine arrives, if it does (which in itself is open to wild speculation), the purchase price and running costs of such a car would be so prohibitive it will end up like the W427 - cherished by many: owned by very few (and driven by even less).

naddis01 · 24-03-2011, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vibe_xr6

i can see the government pulling up the manufactors of these performance vechile very soon, these games between holden and ford performance are not going to stop, in ten years they will most likely be pushing 600+rwkw stock. i can see it ending very soon !

10 years ago HSV had 300kw. What are we up to now? 335kw? Not that much increase in my opinion. I don't see power more than doubling in another 10 years.

The GTS back then might have been considered similar to the WD40 now in terms of engine output so in 10 years we will probably have about 375kw maybe 400kw in 'run of the mill' GT's. If there is local manufacture in 10 years.

vibe_xr6 · 24-03-2011, 12:31 PM

well what have they jumped from, 280-307-317 ?
ford for instance in the xr8 260-290- and the rest
gt for instance- 290-310 at the fly wheel-335 at the wheels
seems to me like they are climbing mate

FalconXR6 · 24-03-2011, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flappist

Well what is the need for:

2005 xr6 in vibe colour, extractors, high flow cat, redback 2.5 inch cat back, big mouth induction+typhoon lower snorkle and a little bit of custom work, fusion sub and speakers, 20 inch xhp rims, polished ecu and rocket cover, lowered on superlows & gt monroe shocks, full respray, soon to come custom tune, xr8 bonnet

Surely a Yaris is all you want........

Top call !!!

naddis01 · 24-03-2011, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vibe_xr6

well what have they jumped from, 280-307-317 ?
ford for instance in the xr8 260-290- and the rest
gt for instance- 290-310 at the fly wheel-335 at the wheels
seems to me like they are climbing mate

I didn't deny they are climbing. I don't see that they are climbing at a speed where they are going to be 600+rwkw in ten years. I was just saying the locals were putting out up to 300kw 10 years so I don't see how the power levels now are crazy.

I have a feeling my prediction for 10 years time may be closer than yours but time will tell.

Anyway I will leave it at that.

vibe_xr6 · 24-03-2011, 02:06 PM

well look how far technogly has come now mate, not only that things are starting to go boosted also, but anyway as i said im not here to argue, i had a say and once again, an argument

Windsor220 · 24-03-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

I didn't deny they are climbing. I don't see that they are climbing at a speed where they are going to be 600+rwkw in ten years. I was just saying the locals were putting out up to 300kw 10 years so I don't see how the power levels now are crazy.

I have a feeling my prediction for 10 years time may be closer than yours but time will tell.

Anyway I will leave it at that.

You have to remember that Holden did a massive jump from 220kw to 300kw with the engine change back in the VT days. All of the engines have been from the same family since then just different capacities. If Holden go a new supercharged unit or 7.0 then we could see a big jump again to a new level.

naddis01 · 24-03-2011, 03:09 PM

Yes that is true but the WD40 had 375kw and I didn't here anyone calling to ban them when they were released. I agree with Vibe in that technology has moved on from the 70's. Brakes, tyres and platforms are all more advanced and able to handle these sort of outputs.

This time I am definately

MexicanBatman · 24-03-2011, 03:52 PM

you get 375kw from wd40?

im off to supercheap for some cans now!

dave289 · 24-03-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MexicanBatman

you get 375kw from wd40?

im off to supercheap for some cans now!

can you get me 2 cans while your there, thanks mate.

2011G6E · 24-03-2011, 04:23 PM

You can always tell it's that time every now and then when petrol prices are starting to get rediculous and oil is peaking in price...Holden (and to a lesser extent, Ford) always choose those times to start spruiking how they're going to be making bigger and bigger V8's...

Speaking of the W427...I remember vividly that a lot of people were awfully ****ed off that Holden was allowed to enter it in the 24 hour "production car" race at Bathurst. I suppose Holden said it was a "production car"..."one" was produced at the time, so that's "production", isn't it...?