|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
25-02-2012, 08:19 AM | #1 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
City of Chicago Places Order for 500 Next-Generation Ford Police Interceptors
LINK DEARBORN, Mich., Feb. 24, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- * The city of Chicago will buy 500 Ford Police Interceptor sedans and utility vehicles, the largest commitment to date for the all-new vehicle. * Production of Police Interceptors added 230 jobs at the Torrence Avenue plant; additional manufacturing and support jobs are expected. * Ford's all-new, purpose-built Police Interceptor began rolling off the line at Chicago Assembly in January, building on 15 years of leadership in law enforcement vehicles. * Ford's Police Interceptor vehicles can save law enforcement agencies across the country millions of dollars a year in fuel costs Ford is off to a strong start as the next-generation vehicle of choice by law enforcement agencies across the country. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel announced today the city will buy 500 Police Interceptor sedans and utility vehicles, the largest commitment to date for the all-new vehicles. "We are pleased and proud Chicago has decided to purchase Ford's Police Interceptor vehicles," said Ken Czubay, vice president of Marketing, Sales and Service. "Ford has been the police pursuit vehicle market leader for 15 years, and we know these all-new vehicles can handle the rigors of police work." The Police Interceptor sedan and utility vehicles started production at the company's Chicago Assembly Plant last month, adding 230 jobs at the Torrence Avenue plant with additional manufacturing and support jobs expected in the future. Ford specially designed and engineered an all-new Police Interceptor sedan and utility to handle the rigors of police work, working hand-in-hand with its Police Advisory Board of law enforcement professionals. Big cost savings Ford's all-new Police Interceptor vehicles can save law enforcement agencies across the country millions of dollars a year in fuel costs. For example, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department – the largest in the world – operates a fleet of 6,200 vehicles that patrol an area the size of Connecticut. In 2010, those vehicles drove more than 27 million miles. A fleet-wide 20 percent fuel economy gain would stand to save the department at least $20 million a year with fuel prices hovering near $4 a gallon. Increased power, enhanced sophistication Ford's Police Interceptor engine strategy provides a V6 lineup that performs equal to or better than V8 engines. The lineup comes with two powertrain options, allowing police to choose the powerhouse that best meets their patrol requirements. A highly efficient 3.5-liter V6 engine delivering at least 263 horsepower and E85 compatibility is 25 percent more efficient than the outgoing 4.6-liter single-overhead-cam V8 it is replacing. In addition, the all-new 3.5-liter EcoBoost® V6 twin-turbocharged, direct-injection engine will deliver at least 365 horsepower and 350 lb.-ft. of torque across a broad rpm range. EcoBoost brings the first ultra-high-performance yet environmentally friendly police pursuit vehicle. The engine offers performance that bests normally aspirated V8-powered police cruisers, and comparable fuel economy and CO2emissions to the standard V6. Rigorously tested, police-tuned Throughout its development, Ford's new Police Interceptor has been put through the paces, undergoing a battery of torture tests to ensure its individual components can hold up to the rigorous driving styles of police professionals. Certification testing designed by the Michigan State Police and Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department evaluates the durability and capability of the vehicle through a variety of tests where its systems are pushed to the limits for nearly an hour and a half – far exceeding the demands most patrol cars ever experience. To meet the rigors of the durability testing, the brakes have been increased in size and performance. The cooling package is purpose-built as well, featuring a heavy-duty alternator and larger radiator. Its honeycomb grille is designed to work in harmony with the interior components, offering more airflow throughout. Plus, the standard 18-inch steel wheels are vented, designed to work in concert with the enhanced brake system. Functional, inside and out Front seats have been specially designed, with a lower bolster removed to better accommodate officers' utility belts. Inserted into the seatback are anti-stab plates, designed to protect front-seat occupants. The Police Interceptor second row also has been optimized to address police-specific needs. The vinyl seats are specially sculpted and set back to improve second-row space and maximize legroom. The back door hinges are modified to open up another 10 degrees versus traditional rear doors. The Ford Police Interceptor also is equipped with a column shift specially designed so the console area is free for the ever-increasing amounts of aftermarket police equipment necessary for officers to do their jobs. The new vehicle also features: * BLIS® (Blind Spot Information System): The system uses two radar sensors in the rear quarter panels to detect vehicles in surrounding lanes. If a vehicle enters the driver's blind-spot zones, the system alerts the driver with a warning light in the sideview mirror * Cross-traffic alert: This system uses the existing BLIS radar modules to sense oncoming traffic when slowly backing out of a parking spot. This industry-exclusive system functions only while the vehicle is in reverse and warns when cross-traffic appears within three car-widths * Rear view camera: When the vehicle is in rear camera mode, a color image with guidance markers on the rearview mirror will assist the driver in backing up * Reverse Sensing System: An audible tone will alert the driver to certain objects up to 6 feet behind the vehicle * Standard AdvanceTrac® ESC (electronic stability control): This helps maintain the intended path by measuring side-to-side yaw, or skidding, by the vehicle's speed, throttle position and steering wheel angle. When wheel slip is sensed, AdvanceTrac reduces engine torque and applies selected brakes * Ford SYNC®: The Ford-exclusive, hands-free information system has the potential to be customized and remapped to work specifically with police aftermarket equipment such as lights and sirens, allowing officers to focus on the task at hand |
||
25-02-2012, 10:36 AM | #2 | ||
Cynical Idealist
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 1,512
|
It's funny how they're already in production but the EcoBoost horsepower figure isn't official yet ("at least 365 horsepower").
__________________
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with! |
||
25-02-2012, 10:46 AM | #3 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
Do the engines make only 365 hp or do they make more that's not claimed by Ford? It wouldn't be the first occasion Ford has understated power figures... |
|||
25-02-2012, 10:49 AM | #4 | ||
Cynical Idealist
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 1,512
|
I've read rumors of 400 horsepower for 2013.
I may get one next year. This year I'm saving money for a trip to Australia!
__________________
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with! |
||
25-02-2012, 10:52 AM | #5 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
being an upgraded version of the Ford/GM joint venture box with new input shaft and extra plates in the clutch packs. |
|||
25-02-2012, 11:02 AM | #6 | ||
Where to next??
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 8,893
|
What does this car look like? Can a pic be posted please.
This it? |
||
25-02-2012, 11:09 AM | #7 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
It's a very powerful double punch as both share a lot of parts and drive similarly.. |
|||
25-02-2012, 11:18 AM | #8 | |||
Where to next??
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 8,893
|
Quote:
Anyway... nice numbers none the less. |
|||
25-02-2012, 11:29 AM | #9 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NSW
Posts: 1,428
|
Quote:
FNA would lose money and have very narrow profit margins if the sent these to FoA and they would probably be very expensive to make up for it. They look great though, i wonder how people will go importing them? Why didnt they make a 400HP+ RWD Highway/Interstate Patrol version?
__________________
2001 Falcon Fairmont AU2 Big turbo coming Lsd |
|||
25-02-2012, 11:36 AM | #10 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
Now imagine a FWD/AWD Territory used as the basis for a sedan, it's not the best idea and while it suits the USA for now Taurus will become a larger version of Mondeo/Fusion |
|||
25-02-2012, 11:41 AM | #11 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
This is just the beginning as Ford plans to retain a lot of its previous Police Vehicle business by incorporating
the new Sedan and Utility Vehicle into existing main line products namely, Taurus and Explorer. Ford is already way ahead by completely eliminating the Crown Victoria production line and using upgraded versions of Taurus and Explorer as the new PIs, the savings are in the bank already. Arguably, there is far more commonality between Taurus and explorer than between Caprice-Tahoe- Impala and while Dodge offer Charger, they don't seem to offer an SUV which is strange... |
||
25-02-2012, 11:52 AM | #12 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,633
|
FWD police car is no fun at all .. When Curt attaches a chain to it's rear end and the other to a lamp post the damn thing will keep going just dragging it's bum along the ground ..
|
||
25-02-2012, 11:58 AM | #13 | |||
Where to next??
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 8,893
|
Quote:
|
|||
25-02-2012, 12:21 PM | #14 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
the FWD versions are for non-PI duties as support vehicles. Since most of the larger Police Departments are in the snow belt states, RWD will be a tough sell. Even Dodge makes their Charger in AWd versions while Caprice is RWD only and SFA sales to date. Case closed. |
|||
25-02-2012, 12:56 PM | #15 | |||
Cynical Idealist
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 1,512
|
Quote:
There would be no point in designing an all-new chassis simply for the police fleet market. Profit margins for fleet sales are not very high. The new Police Interceptor sedan has standard all-wheel drive, but a low-cost front-wheel-drive version is available (most models of the Taurus upon which it is based are front-wheel drive). Regarding someone's comment that rear-wheel drive is no good in northern states, how do you explain the popularity of the Crown Vic? They were very popular even in Canada.
__________________
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with! |
|||
25-02-2012, 01:02 PM | #16 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
Clue: There is no 2013 Crown Victoria and Charger sales aren't that high for a country of 300 million.. |
|||
25-02-2012, 01:33 PM | #17 | ||
Cynical Idealist
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 1,512
|
The Crown Vic didn't die because of snow. And it was more popular in northern states and Canada than the FWD Dodge Intrepid or Chevy Impala.
Dodge's problem is that it is Dodge. But the Florida Highway Patrol is mostly using Chargers now, after more than a decade of Crown Vics. RWD cars with traction control do OK in the snow. Cops like RWD cars with V8s. Fleet managers like cheap cars. The Crown Vic was both (but it was never fast). Most cop car fans in the US now are drooling over the new Caprice PPV.
__________________
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with! |
||
25-02-2012, 03:16 PM | #18 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ipswich QLD
Posts: 4,697
|
Quote:
And if there drooling how come there not buying any??? |
|||
25-02-2012, 03:33 PM | #19 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,633
|
Quote:
.. Don't know how Chicago police ever coped with 440-powered, RWD Dodge Polaras if now they *must have* AWD. Probably global warming .. |
|||
25-02-2012, 03:41 PM | #20 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ipswich QLD
Posts: 4,697
|
Quote:
do a search on the comparos.....the awd PI cars are amazing |
|||
25-02-2012, 04:02 PM | #21 | |||
Cynical Idealist
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 1,512
|
Quote:
Agencies that were fans of the Crown Vic (even though many of them sued Ford over the ridiculous gas tank issue) liked its full frame and the simplicity of the RWD setup. There is much suspicion about the durability of unibody construction and FWD/AWD transaxles and CV joints. A lot of Americans are skeptical about the reliability of turbos as well, because they remember the primitive units of the 1980s. Not only that, but a lot of people think that because the new Police Interceptor is based on a car with the Taurus name that it will somehow have similar problems to the Taurus police car offered in the early '90s, even though the current car doesn't share a single part with that car. Logic and reason clearly aren't the only factors in play currently. It will take a couple of years to sort out which manufacturer offers the superior police car. There's also a wild card in Carbon Motors' purpose-built E7 (which I doubt will ever see production).
__________________
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with! |
|||
25-02-2012, 04:31 PM | #22 | ||||||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
of the D3 Taurus/Fivehundred, a car that's been on the market for around five years... Moby, Police no doubt love their CVS and the PDs bought up big before STAP closed down , great move by Ford saturating the market before CV's demise, many PD's feets are now replenished and won't need product for about a year or so which means the new PI twins have time to bed in and establish a reputation ... Caprice PPV was the pin up boy fro RWD PVs but has sold terribly in the past six months, I just don't know how long Holden will hang in there, somewhere in the US, there a huge storage yard chock full of unsold PPVs, Holden can't keep sending cars that just don't sell... |
||||||
25-02-2012, 09:19 PM | #23 | ||
Peter Car
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
|
But according to Holdens CEO they "intend" to sell thousands and thousands of them.
|
||
26-02-2012, 01:58 AM | #24 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,198
|
Quote:
|
|||
26-02-2012, 04:02 AM | #25 | |||
Cynical Idealist
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
Posts: 1,512
|
Quote:
Another complaint of the detractors is that they don't like the way Ford handles AWD, with a transversely mounted engine and FWD bias. I say look at the car's performance and don't worry about how it does what it does. If it works, it works. Police are notoriously resistant to change. Many remain skeptical of the Taurus-based car. It has been through incredible durability tests, and Ford set up an excellent Police Advisory Board for the car. They are clearly committed to making the transition as seamless as possible. They even made the interior dimensions match the Crown Vic so equipment that had been mounted in a Crown Vic can swap directly into the new Police Interceptor. I'm surprised to hear about the unsold Caprices. If police won't buy them, I bet Chevy will offer them to the general public. At least since the '80s I've heard that Chevy built faster police cars, but Ford built nicer, more reliable cars. It sounds like that may be the case with Holden as well.
__________________
Your plastic pal who's fun to be with! |
|||
26-02-2012, 07:43 AM | #26 | |||
The 'Stihl' Man
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,591
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|||
26-02-2012, 09:21 AM | #27 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
I can understand that this is a watershed moment for North American police departments who hold the Crown Victoria in high regard, it was a vehicle that started out as a regular production large Ford but ended up being tailored to police needs and became their dependable and robust "office". No wonder that Ford continued forward selling as many CVs as PDs would take right up to the end, that was a brilliant move IMO, that shut the door on competitors and gave Ford the gap they needed to establish the new PI sedan and Ute. I understand the police reluctance to fully give over to Taurus, most people see it as merely FWD but in AWD guise it becomes a completely different vehicle, under acceleration up to 90% of the torque gets transferred to the rear wheels which makes it launch like a well planted RWD, maybe that's the difference, the ability to move swiftly in less than perfect weather conditions, RWD start to suffer when the road gets damp but the AWDs with superior grip comes to the fore...and hving similar handling Taurus and Explorer makes the choice even more compelling for PDs - two different but complementary vehicles that require less driver retraining. I think GM and Carbon Motor's biggest mistake was to make their pitches at the men on the front line rather than to the procurement officers and review panels, to me that's the difference with the Ford PI, the decisions were made without that almost carnival public acclamation but pitched at the right people. In any case, this is still very early day and GM may fight back with next gen AWD Impala as they too have a twin turbo 3.6 V6 on the design table. Who knows what the future holds, Dodge may leap too... Last edited by jpd80; 26-02-2012 at 09:31 AM. |
|||
26-02-2012, 10:47 AM | #28 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Central Q..10kms west of Rocky...
Posts: 8,318
|
Ford can we have a Tezza that looks like this ??
__________________
CSGhia Last edited by csv8; 17-05-2012 at 08:47 AM. |
||
26-02-2012, 01:37 PM | #29 | |||
Peter Car
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
|
Quote:
Holden are like the mate you have who constantly talks *** yet does nothing like what he talks. |
|||
26-02-2012, 03:02 PM | #30 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
you wish him all the best but more often than not, it all ends in tears.. Ford is like the other mate that doesn't talk much about his plans but just gets in and does what he can on a modest budget, the quiet achiever.. |
|||