Boss Vs Windsor low RPM torque

[DeepBlueOval]

I've been deciding between these two V8's and a key factor is low RPM torque.

The consensus on the forums seems to be that the stroked 5.6 Windsor has the edge but the only figures I've been able to find for the Boss indicate it has 400nm at 1000rpm!

Can anyone provide some torque specs at low rpm (1000/2000/3000 etc) for these engines?

220kw tickford
5.6 stroker
boss 260
boss 290
barra 240t

Thanks

[Whitey-AMG]

Which cars in particular are you seriously thinking of buying ?
What trans ?
Are you planning any mods - or leaving car completely stock.

[Cheese3]

Bahahahaha Boss engine and low rpm torque mentioned in the same sentance

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by Cheese3

Bahahahaha Boss engine and low rpm torque mentioned in the same sentance

Didnt take long for the TROLLS to enter.......

Runs and grabs the pop corn....

[mik]

Gearing and weight are a factor too.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by ESP

Didnt take long for the TROLLS to enter.......

Runs and grabs the pop corn....

Awww come on your usually not the couch potato, looking forward to your real life experience driving stock for stock low down torque experince comparo of the 5.6 wheezer v's your 290, hey auto or manual which ever you prefer.
Thats the factors here stock as a rock ex showroom.
Come on help out the OP instead of jumping in calling people trolls go figure

[DeepBlueOval]

So the cars (all manual) I'm considering are as follows in order of my current preferences

T3 TE50
T2 TE50/AUIII XR8
BA GT-P
BA XR6T

I can spend 3-5k on mods over time if necessary

[T3rminator]

You'll find it hard to get stats throughout the rev ranges, as most will just give peak torque. The turbo will give you a range, and I know 80% of the 500Nm on the 5.6 is from 2000RPM.

If low down torque is what you are after, go the 5.6 or turbo......or a barra 220. ))))



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[Whitey-AMG]

Ive got a much better idea.....why doesnt the OP go and take the cars he is interested in for a drive and make up his own mind.
These threads go nowhere and have been done to death.....

[DeepBlueOval]

ESP I've driven all of these except the t-series stroker, but not in manual. While from reading other threads I can see why you would say these go nowhere, I'm actually after specific information.

T3rminator, how different would you say the 5.6 is from the 5.0 in the T2 at 1000-2000 rpm?

Also how much would it cost to stroke the 5.0?

[FPV GTHO]

I think its only the 290 that was quoted as having 400nm at 1000rpm.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Cheese3

Bahahahaha Boss engine and low rpm torque mentioned in the same sentance

Going from memory my factory standard BA 5.4 Boss demonstrated:

1500 RPM at about 460 Nm
2000 RPM at just over 510 Nm

From there it was reasonably flattish climbing to a peak of about 540-550Nm until it started to drop after it passed 5500.

I remember these numbers as this particular point tended to be brought up reasonably often on the old Forum back in 2003.

Now remind me again what the MAXIMUM torque demonstrated at any RPM by the hand built "super engine" about which you constantly dribble on......

Of course if you are only interested in torque below 1500 RPM there are a lot of front wheel drive 4 cylinder diesel hatches for you to choose.

[Alan D Segal]

Originally Posted by flappist

Going from memory from my factory standard BA 5.4 Boss demonstrated:

1500 RPM at about 460 Nm
2000 RPM at just over 510 Nm

I'd believe it. In my BA XR8 auto I can drive all around Brisbane on 60-70km/h roads without going over 2000rpm and still keep up with traffic easily. It has 4.1s so it isn't directly relevant. I think people under-rate how much torque they really have though.

[FPV GTHO]

Originally Posted by flappist

Going from memory my factory standard BA 5.4 Boss demonstrated:

1500 RPM at about 460 Nm
2000 RPM at just over 510 Nm

From there it was reasonably flattish climbing to a peak of about 540-550Nm until it started to drop after it passed 5500.

I remember these numbers as this particular point tended to be brought up reasonably often on the old Forum back in 2003.

Now remind me again what the MAXIMUM torque demonstrated at any RPM by the hand built "super engine" about which you constantly dribble on......

Of course if you are only interested in torque below 1500 RPM there are a lot of front wheel drive 4 cylinder diesel hatches for you to choose.

What sort of dyno were those figures taken from?

[b2tf]

Cant quote numbers only 'real world' experience and the Windsor has it all over the BOSS down low.

[Cheese3]

Comon guys , don't shoot the messenger I'm just saying what people are thinking . . .

Originally Posted by DeepBlueOval

I've been deciding between these two V8's and a key factor is low RPM torque.

The consensus on the forums seems to be that the stroked 5.6 Windsor has the edge but the only figures I've been able to find for the Boss indicate it has 400nm at 1000rpm!

Can anyone provide some torque specs at low rpm (1000/2000/3000 etc) for these engines?

220kw tickford
5.6 stroker
boss 260
boss 290
barra 240t

Thanks

Why is low rpm torque the key factor , towing ?

Originally Posted by flappist

Going from memory my factory standard BA 5.4 Boss demonstrated:

1500 RPM at about 460 Nm
2000 RPM at just over 510 Nm

From there it was reasonably flattish climbing to a peak of about 540-550Nm until it started to drop after it passed 5500.

I remember these numbers as this particular point tended to be brought up reasonably often on the old Forum back in 2003.

Now remind me again what the MAXIMUM torque demonstrated at any RPM by the hand built "super engine" about which you constantly dribble on......

Of course if you are only interested in torque below 1500 RPM there are a lot of front wheel drive 4 cylinder diesel hatches for you to choose.

You Sir are correct !

[FGII-XR6]

the BA turbo will give you what you want and be cheaper to run unless you flog it

[flappist]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

What sort of dyno were those figures taken from?

One of the engine dynos at FPV. It was on display at one of the open days.

[EASYBOSS]

Originally Posted by DeepBlueOval

So the cars (all manual) I'm considering are as follows in order of my current preferences

T3 TE50
T2 TE50/AUIII XR8
BA GT-P
BA XR6T

I can spend 3-5k on mods over time if necessary

Get the BA GT/GTP and put 4.1 diff gears in, problem solved hands down

[flappist]

Hmm, member for 5 years with 11 posts.

Suddenly I had a feeling of deja vu.

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11226669

You have your answers. This thread is done.

closed.