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Old 20-05-2013, 11:52 AM   #1
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Exclamation Holden's signs similar to Mitsubishi when it closed Adelaide plant

Hmm, Holden preping us for another government handout?

http://www.news.com.au/business/comp...-1226646259550

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Old 20-05-2013, 11:59 AM   #2
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What a load of BS. No mention of Ford who are in a much worse position. Great timing right before a federal election with Abbott stating car manufacturers will have to sink or swim. If that was not orchestrated by Holden I will eat my hat.
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Old 20-05-2013, 12:26 PM   #3
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What ****** me off is Holden has already got government funding until 2020, what more do they want? And yet Ford has not asked for money post 2016!! One would assume Ford is in a worse position?
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Old 20-05-2013, 12:39 PM   #4
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"Assume" is the operative word about fords position.
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Prof Spoehr may want to cash that Holden cheque before it bounces right out the door........
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Not sure Holden would do this deliberately being so close to the release of the VF. It may turn prospective buyers off.
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Old 20-05-2013, 03:18 PM   #7
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Isn't it part of Ford culture to stand on their own 2 feet and take as little of government money as possible.
Look at what happened at the peak of the GFC when Chrysler and GM took bailout money from the US government.
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The GMH CEO's & shareholders need another bonus this year, don't you guys get it?

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Hmm, Holden preping us for another government handout?

http://www.news.com.au/business/comp...-1226646259550
This same 'guy' did an article recently saying the VF will be a sales success.
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Interesting that Holden and Ford have basically the same number of factory workers (1750 and 1700). I thought Holden made almost two to three times as many cars?
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Interesting that Holden and Ford have basically the same number of factory workers (1750 and 1700).
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Ford doesn't have anywhere near that many factory workers.
Probably half the work force, building 2/3rds of the output Holden are........
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What ****** me off is Holden has already got government funding until 2020, what more do they want? And yet Ford has not asked for money post 2016!! One would assume Ford is in a worse position?
No one has stopped Ford from applying for funding, they have chosen not to.
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Isn't it part of Ford culture to stand on their own 2 feet and take as little of government money as possible.
Look at what happened at the peak of the GFC when Chrysler and GM took bailout money from the US government.
Really? Two things happened. Ford realised they were in the crap sooner and secondly were fortunate to have found a CEO who was actually very good. Actually looking to restructure their business before the GFC was on in earnest helped Ford too.

If they hadn't pulled off both, then they would have been lined up right next to the two other guys.
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Really? Two things happened. Ford realised they were in the crap sooner and secondly were fortunate to have found a CEO who was actually very good. Actually looking to restructure their business before the GFC was on in earnest helped Ford too.

If they hadn't pulled off both, then they would have been lined up right next to the two other guys.
The point is they did pull it off when they had to make the hard decisions.
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Interesting to note that Holden now have their end of year sale on, and some of the locally made cars that are being offered come with the following note:
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Max. sale price for MY12.5 Commodore SV6 manual petrol sedan, offer available with new vehicles sold between 20/05/13 and 30/06/13
We have nearly completed 5 months of the year, and they are still trying to offload locally made cars from last year.
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Interesting to note that Holden now have their end of year sale on, and some of the locally made cars that are being offered come with the following note:


We have nearly completed 5 months of the year, and they are still trying to offload locally made cars from last year.
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MY12.5 is the last update to VE...MY13 = VF Commodore.
Holden has basically nothing left to sell except SV6 in Sedan and Wagon,
just about everything else ran out a month ago


But contrast that to Ford who builds sweet FA outside of dealer monthly orders.
Ford might not sell that many Falcons or Territorys but there's no stockpile to speak of...

Regardless of price, making too many Falcons or Commodores is the quick road to disaster..

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