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View Poll Results: Now that Ford have decided to become an importer will you?
Continue to buy Fords no matter what 40 23.12%
Buy a Ford but only if it's a proper RWD car 39 22.54%
Move to something else entirely 30 17.34%
Keep my options open and still look at a Ford 74 42.77%
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Old 23-05-2013, 08:27 PM   #1
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There are other polls on this subject but I thought that I'd include some more realistic choices.

For instance some people have said that they would buy an imported Mustang of F series because they are a RWD Ford

Much as I dislike FWD cars I would buy an Aussie built front driver before I'd buy any imported vehicle.

However if Holden and Toyota pulled the pin I'd probably buy an AWD Subaru before I'd buy any FWD car.

One day the 4wd bubble will burst and we will then come to lament the Falcons passing into history.

I think that short term used Falcon values will plummet as the Valiant was worth virtually nothing in the 80's but good used Falcons will become a classic as Valiants now have become.


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Old 23-05-2013, 08:36 PM   #2
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I have a focus, so certainly not Aussie built. sad to see it go, but in years to come we will come to love something else with the blue oval on it.
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Yes, absolutely. A Ford is a Ford no matter where it's built.
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Old 23-05-2013, 08:40 PM   #4
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No. I refuse to buy imported, full stop.
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Old 23-05-2013, 08:41 PM   #5
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Have done, onto my second German ford.
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Old 23-05-2013, 08:43 PM   #6
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Already have, MA Mondeo.

Great car!


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Had one German Ford and one South African one (WS Fiesta and LV Focus).

I'm interested to see if we get Exploder and Taur*** as I quite like both
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No. I refuse to buy imported, full stop.
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Owned 3 imported fords in a row prior to the FG. Great cars. Would do it again if they had what I wanted at the time and in my price range.
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Old 23-05-2013, 08:50 PM   #10
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For the large car ford are thinking of shipping the taurus out as the large car.

It's FWD (US gov don't believe people are able to handle a RWD car on the road properly so have forced companies to stop making RWD cars) with a 2ltr V4 or a 3.5ltr V6 and a 3.5ltr V6 with twin turbo.

Don't expect stupid amounts of power either
v6 twin = 288HP @ 6500 (87 octane)
v6 = 365HP @ 5500 Achieved with premium fuel (91 octane)
v4 = 240HP @ 5500 Achieved with premium fuel

You do have AWD but only on the upper class versions as an extra and no RWD at all.

costs here no idea but $27,000USD for the base model so V4, FWD.

So I highly doubt it'll be cheap here also there's no V8 model so this car can't be used in the V8 Supercars if anyone was wondering.

To be honest I think Ford have damaged their brand here and probably damaged their sales big time and for a long long time.

I only see this as a convenience to close the factories kill off the falcon completely, the ute is gone 100% as well and that can't be replaced by anything as nothing else exists, also the territory is gone as well but they are keeping the faceplate FordAu and falcon faceplate are wiped completely.

And FordAu are going to use the thailand free trade agreement, which saw 10,000 focus's get brought in from thailand a month yet they say they only exported 100 territories for the whole year back to thailand, so it wasn't worth trying to keep it or even bother to sell it anywhere.

Besides all the taxes etc which haven't been good for anyone and they all kick in properly next month for everyone in Australia. it's just an overall kick in the face really from FordUS, even with the talk of this always happening for the last 5 or so years you'd think they'd have at least kept something rather than just completely wipe everything and say here you'll have this from X country from now on deal with it if you don't like it or buy something else if you wish.

The US gov have nearly killed their own car industry with enforcing car companies do things a certain way even if the market doesn't like it.

And I was in a ford dealer today I don't think the mood is good overall in any dealer in fact the guy behind the desk was wearing a jap car brand as they have started selling that brand 6 months ago probably in case this happened.

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Old 23-05-2013, 08:55 PM   #11
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Australian built cars only..
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For the large car ford are thinking of shipping the taurus out as the large car.
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No they aren't...


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US gov don't believe people are able to handle a RWD car on the road properly so have forced companies to stop making RWD cars
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If that were true the Mustang, Camaro and Challenger would not exist neither would the 300C.

FWD means cheap to manufacture, slightly better fuel economy, potentially more interior space & nothing else.
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FWD means cheap to manufacture, slightly better fuel economy, potentially more interior space & nothing else.
Better in the snow too, apparently
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If we do buy new, which is unlikely but hey I am fair to everyone, then Ford with no Falcon becomes just another manufacturer and then its fair game.
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However if Holden and Toyota pulled the pin....
It'd be smart of them to not do that given the reduced competition, like when Holden stopped making utes for a while and Ford carried on. Assuming that Holden stays in the game, I'll be switching to them. I don't accept that Australia can't have its own auto manufacturing industry.
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Have an MA Mondeo (non), BF XR6 ute (local) and a mk1 GT Cortina (local) - Seriously considering a Ranger (non)
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Better in the snow too, apparently
Sort of. FWDs aren't prone to fishtail when they break traction, however they do it more easily when going up hill. I drove my 2.2 tonne RWD Cadillac quite happily in snow. Not a significant design consideration for Australia though unless you are pulling boats up ramps.

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Old 23-05-2013, 09:13 PM   #20
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well i started out with a cressida so i might just go back to jdm since yanks dont really send any of their decent rwd cars here.
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Old 23-05-2013, 09:15 PM   #21
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I'd probably wait too see what ford replacement would be for the falcon before I decide. (if they do). don't care if its front wheel drive or rear wheel drive either and ranger doesn't appeal too me look wise. they do the job thou and I have driven a few of them just don't like the looks. sorry for being honest. at this stage the answer is no. does it mean that my opinion might change?? of course not. I love my large sedans and utes and coupes. I know times are changing and everyone wants a small car and suv but they don't appeal too me. (exception is the territory). I buy cars I like (been brought up that way so you will look after the car) and the only ford offerings here I like at the moment is falcon and territory. oct 2016 is a long way yet and ford might have something else that appeals too me for sale here by then?? time will tell
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I've never been a Ford only fanatic.
I've owned as many Holdens as I have Fords, and will consider any brand if it suits my needs. (Have owned Fords, Holdens, Toyotas a Nissan and a Suzuki) All that attracts me to Ford is Falcon.

Also, I don't buy new. 3 years old seems to be the best value to me, so if Falcon is stopped in 2016 I can buy a '16 model in '19 keep it till its 10 years old then replace with whatever is available in 2026.

What to buy though in 2026.... Decisions, decisions.
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Old 23-05-2013, 09:25 PM   #23
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If they bring in a Mustang I'd consider one, other than that not much of their international line ups really do anything for me.


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Old 23-05-2013, 09:34 PM   #24
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I've, got a GS ute in the garage and n ST Focus. I'm not narrow minded or one eyed, I buy what suits my needs.
Hence why no more Falcon, for years the Australian market has moved to smaller cars and Ford Australia haven't adapted to a changing market.
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I've gone to a Mazda 3 SP23 and there's a few things about my old EL XR6 that I prefer over the FWD Mazda. More power and weight tends to increase these negatives in FWD cars.

I picked the Mazda over the Focus and the main reason I downsized is that the suitability of smaller cars improved rather than the Falcon's dropping much. The Mazda uses much less fuel, still has a fair bit of punch and the need for the large sedan isn't there for just me 95% of the time. I have wondered if I should have gone for the larger Mazda 6 instead as I wouldn't pay to own anything smaller than the Mazda 3. But I would have needed to stretch the budget a few grand to get what I considered suitable in a Mazda 6.

I've owned Falcons over my first 19 years of driving, switching only last year.
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Im a Ford fan. Not an Australian Ford fan.
I have no intention of buying a Falcon or Terry in the near future anyway.

Ranger PX will be high on my list as my next main car.
Or an Explorer as my secondary car for now.
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Old 23-05-2013, 10:47 PM   #27
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no,

only v8 falcon ute for me thanks
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Mustangs? Yes please...
SVT Lightning? Yes please....
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FWD means cheap to manufacture, slightly better fuel economy, potentially more interior space & nothing else.
exactly what else does the average joe need
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I selected "Keep my options open and still look at a Ford".

I seriously do not know what the next car I buy would be. But being blue blooded, I will most likely end up with another Ford one day as long as I live.
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