Diesel Registrations up 103.7% in 5 Years

[csv8]

The other big jump has been the number of diesel vehicle registrations. According to the report, there has been a 103.7 per cent increase in the number of diesel-powered passenger car registrations since 2008, partially on the back of the SUV boom.

Diesel light commercial vehicle registrations have jumped by 64.8 per cent on the back of the mining boom - you need only look at the record sales of the Toyota HiLux as proof of that.

Evidence of the increasing number of retirees travelling around Australia as grey nomads has also been made quantifiable, with campervan registrations rising by 20.8 per cent since 2008. There are now 54,101 recreational vehicles currently on the country’s roads, up from 44,790 in 2008.

Overall, the number of registered vehicles has increased by 2.6 per cent since 2008 to 17.2 million vehicles - meaning for every 1000 people, there are 750 vehicles registered.

Including cars, trucks, buses and bikes, the average vehicle age is 10 years.
http://brisbanetimes.drive.com.au/mo...724-2qjal.html

[GASWAGON]

My dad fillled his TD Hilux the other day he was telling me and it cost him $90..... How is this 'affordable'...luckily he gets a company fuel card?

[a-total-tool]

Originally Posted by EF_6

My dad fillled his TD Hilux the other day he was telling me and it cost him $90..... How is this 'affordable'...luckily he gets a company fuel card?

Depends on how many kms he does and gets out of a tank, along with how he uses the car (what gear is carried/towed etc)

I guess that the main reasons for this (based on my experience) are that diesel technology is improving. Smoother, cleaner and increasing in power. I can only comment for the cars I looked at, but there was only a 5kw difference between the Focus diesel and the Focus petrol engine - with the diesel having a boatload more torque.

A lot of service stations are moving towards having diesel available at every pump (as opposed to one pump miles away from everything else).

More manufacturers have a diesel variant of cars they offer (whether or not they actively advertise it). For example, I did not know that The Mazda 3 was available with the 2.2 Turbo diesel. I stumbled upon it while searching through carsales.
I have since bought one, and find it a lot cheaper (for my driving) than any of the petrol cars. A lot of my driving is crawling through traffic - so these cars with the start/stop technology are pointless (as I am still crawling for the most part, not completely stopped)
The only downside is the higher cost of servicing.

[turbodewd]

Every article Ive read on the future of diesel says its on the way out for passenger cars. Ultra efficient small turbo petrols are making them redundant, eg the 1.0L/3cyl EcoBoost Ford motor

[flappist]

The topic is increased sales of diesel vehicles.

If anyone tries to turn it into another crusade for their "saviour" it will end in tears.

[Kable72]

My Mum gets around 450 to a tank in her Navara. She spends about 90 bucks filling it up. My Falcon got 470 last tank and I spent 110 filling it. Not much difference but there is one.

[GASWAGON]

The new Volvo V40 TD is getting 4.2 litrs per 100......That is VERY impressive...Mind you the car costs 52K.

Toyota RAV 4 now comes in TD also!

[Wretched]

I had a Fiat Fremont diesel (AKA Dodge Journey) for a week and a half.
In peak hour traffic it was averaging 6.6 l/100km.
with a full tank i was able to cover around 900 - 1000km

[TheSneakiness]

Can't do any better than 12lt/100 round town.

Can't do any better than 9.8lt/100 highway.

From empty to full costs me $124 (based on current price of $1.55 for diesel)

Not worth it.

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by Wretched

I had a Fiat Fremont diesel (AKA Dodge Journey) for a week and a half.
In peak hour traffic it was averaging 6.6 l/100km.
with a full tank i was able to cover around 900 - 1000km

Gee that's impressive.....So those Dodges are Fiats are they...Well i'll be! What makes them so economical then?

[FGII-XR6]

although the thread is about increase in diesel registrations most seem to be posting their high or low consumption figure to say why diesel is good / bad.
just something to bear in mind though saying my 3000 Kg diesel 4X4 uses twice the petrol of a 1200Kg petrol car or saying my petrol powered 4L 6 cylinder SUV uses twice as much as 2.2L turbo diesel car does not prove a point. no comparisons I have seen here have made accurate comparisons of similar vehicles, simply mentioning a single consumption figure also means nothing as you are providing no comparison base, you need to compare apples with apples.
how about doing us all a favour and stop beating the drum of your favour fuel and discuss the actual topic of the thread

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by EF_6

Gee that's impressive.....So those Dodges are Fiats are they...Well i'll be! What makes them so economical then?

The car is a Dodge, rebadged as a Fiat, with a Fiat diesel (as I just read)
http://www.carshowroom.com.au/newcar..._and_Road_Test

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by EF_6

Gee that's impressive.....So those Dodges are Fiats are they...Well i'll be! What makes them so economical then?

Yeah like Chevypower stated they're just badge engineered due to Fiat owning Chrysler group.
Dodge are no longer coming to AU so they are renamed Fiat.
I've got no idea why it was so economical but it was a nice change.
Though the manual on it was woeful.

[Road_Warrior]

We regularly get 650klm to a tank in our Territory, with 90-95% suburban driving. 75 litre tank, costs between $80-$90 to fill but neither our old wagon nor my BA had a hope in hell of getting anywhere near that sort of mileage. Not bad for an AWD 2 tonne tank.

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by chevypower

The car is a Dodge, rebadged as a Fiat, with a Fiat diesel (as I just read)
http://www.carshowroom.com.au/newcar..._and_Road_Test

O.k just read the write up and this thing has 'Variable Turbocharger' and 'Multijet' injectors and does 8 squirts per cycle.....Bloody hell that is great.....There is potential for diesel again then!

[BFXR8]

My father gets around 830klm per tank out of his new ranger which I think is quite good seeing he only works 10 min from home . the new diesel engines have come along way from the old ones .

[Ducati888]

Originally Posted by a-total-tool

I guess that the main reasons for this (based on my experience) are that diesel technology is improving. Smoother, cleaner and increasing in power. I can only comment for the cars I looked at, but there was only a 5kw difference between the Focus diesel and the Focus petrol engine - with the diesel having a boatload more torque.
.

This is pretty true.The outright max power output is irrelevant and pointless in a road car that's used predominantly for commuting in traffic. It's the torque that's important. Torque is what gets the 1.5 - 2 tonne lump of metal and plastic moving from the lights.

For that reason, diesel should get better urban mileage than petrol, even though it's dirtier, more polluting and has higher maintenance costs.

Outright max power is only available at max torque and optimum revs. Who ever drives in that rev range?

[Polyal]

Hmm I wouldnt go comparing a pickup to a passenger car, if you want to compare diesel then do it like for like.

I drive diesels with work and they are ok but the Hiluxs are really built for work, you want good economy then buy a normal car. TDi just dulls the pain for larger cars, just look at the Tez, the torque the deliver helps move the lard.

Ive also driven a few TDi Golfs and A4's and all of them give around 5-7 l/100, consistently. If it wasnt for the DPF issue (depending on model etc) then TDi for normal every day driving seems like a no brainer to me. You just have to do the calc's and work out if it is economical for you in the long run, or if you even care.

I actually find the torque and short manual gearing to be fun.

[mik]

I've always been a bit sceptical of small diesels in cars , ie long term servicing costs and reliability, etc, but now and again when I,m emptying my wallet at the service station I have wondered how would the xr6 go with the terri diesel ............. project anyone ?????? Mind you I'm still sceptical of cost , cars running manual diesels with more expensive hardware attached, dual mass flywheels, more expensive servicing procedures and outlay cost????
I have always thought the costs may actually balance out in the end and be almost neck and neck(but I could be wrong).

[GTP-814]

we are on our second golf in 5 years & the weife gets over 1000 km to a tank, so we only fill up every third week & for a car that cost $30k.
There is no way i would go back to petrol car for second vehicle in family

[mik]

Originally Posted by GTP-814

we are on our second golf in 5 years & the weife gets over 1000 km to a tank, so we only fill up every third week & for a car that cost $30k.
There is no way i would go back to petrol car for second vehicle in family

it is a bit hard to really make a judgement on that as you didn't really have it long term or did a lot of k's in it i assume, but it appears you did pay a premium for the privilege.

[Matty4]

Well we've contributed to 2 of those diesel registrations.
My Jeep gets over 1100k's out on the highway and around 950k's around town from a 93lt tank. It doesn't get a whole lot of use during the week so I only fill it once a month.
My wifes Focus gets 720 around town from the 55lt tank. This gets filled every 3rd week.

Don't think we'll be going back to petrol anytime soon.

[jpd80]

The beauty of a diesel is how efficient thay are when towing or hauling heavy loads,
do either of those with a petrol engined truck and you'll see how thirsty they are.

Now, if most of your driving is light load and mixed/open running, then I'd say
that an efficient, smallish petrol engined car or SUV is still hard to beat...

[Matty4]

Originally Posted by jpd80

The beauty of a diesel is how efficient thay are when towing or hauling heavy loads,
do either of those with a petrol engined truck and you'll see how thirsty they are.

Primarily why I went diesel this time.
My old Territory Ghia turbo used 23-24lt/100 towing my 2.5T van.
My Jeep uses 12-13lt/100, and with a bigger tank I can still get over 600k's between fills.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by EF_6

My dad fillled his TD Hilux the other day he was telling me and it cost him $90..... How is this 'affordable'...luckily he gets a company fuel card?

Costs me about $70-75 to fill my Diesel Focus and that's about 900km of driving.

And it goes better than all the junk 2L petrol NA 4 cylinder engined competitors.


Give me a diesel engine with a turbo on the side of it any day of the week over petrol engines.

I'm a Diesel convert.

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Costs me about $70-75 to fill my Diesel Focus and that's about 900km of driving.

Well that is affordable...900k's is excellent!

[Cuyper]

Small turbo direct injection petrol motors are very efficient but they are no more efficient than a turbo diesel and turbo diesels are no where near at their peak yet + last much longer. Unless it's a high revving sports car we will never be buying a petrol fuelled car again, that goes for the entire extended family and everyone of my friends. 95% of who are already solely diesel users.

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by Matty4

Well we've contributed to 2 of those diesel registrations.
My Jeep gets over 1100k's out on the highway and around 950k's around town from a 93lt tank. It doesn't get a whole lot of use during the week so I only fill it once a month.
My wifes Focus gets 720 around town from the 55lt tank. This gets filled every 3rd week.

Don't think we'll be going back to petrol anytime soon.

"You gotta Jeep ?"
Sorry, had to say it

[Brazen]

In terms of diesel passenger cars diesel is actually falling pretty quickly. Mercedes and BMW are predicting big falls in diesel sales, and VW has said it will never design a diesel smaller than 2.0 again as small turbo petrol engines are better suited to small cars.

The problem is emission equipment, it is really expensive to manufacture and very expensive maintain. DPFs can cost up to 12 grand and some are needing replacing at 100,000 km like a consumable.

[GASWAGON]

12k....Eeeesh!