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15-10-2013, 11:11 AM | #1 | |||
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http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2013...MEIwJk5uZT0xNQ..
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15-10-2013, 11:16 AM | #2 | ||
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It'll probably be called Edge in Oz. No one would be fooled into thinking this is a Territory. The Territory's strong point was local design and manufacture which this obviously doesn't have.
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15-10-2013, 11:29 AM | #3 | ||
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This will fade into obsecurity and probably only sell as much as the Mazda CX9
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15-10-2013, 11:50 AM | #4 | |||
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I think they would be mad to drop the Territory name. Just look at Kuga sales & that would tell you all. If they keep Territory, they'd get 1,000+ per month straight away no problems. If they bring Edge, they start from scratch & would be lucky to sell 500 per month. |
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15-10-2013, 12:34 PM | #5 | ||
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Same as when they dumped the Laser nameplate for Focus. It has taken the better part of 10 years to get some numbers from that nameplate
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15-10-2013, 02:11 PM | #6 | ||
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I'm not sure about people not associating it as being a Territory if it keeps the name. What would've happened if we got an all new locally developed Territory?
It might be a bit late to think about the name anyway as they missed an opportunity by backtracking on their initial decision to sell the Mk2 Kuga as an Escape like the US. Had that been the case we could've had Ecosport, Escape, Edge and Endeavour. If they call it Territory the average fan thinks nothing of it, if they call it Edge then the Kuga looks weird but might have a point of difference |
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15-10-2013, 04:07 PM | #7 | |||
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Hasn't that already been leaked?
2014 Ford Edge Photo and Global Ford Lineup Leaked Quote:
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16-10-2013, 12:20 AM | #8 | ||
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Mmm... bland global product to blend in with all the other's
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16-10-2013, 06:19 AM | #9 | ||
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I thought Explorer would replace the Territory. They're everywhere is the US and look fantastic!
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16-10-2013, 08:14 AM | #10 | ||
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Here's a clearer picture of the next Edge/Territory:
http://www.carscoops.com/2013/10/fut...tory-with.html |
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16-10-2013, 09:39 AM | #11 | ||
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Great work there Josh!
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16-10-2013, 09:45 AM | #12 | ||||
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With Australia getting the Ranger based Everest as the larger more hard-core SUV there was no way the Explorer was ever coming here. From the Carscoops link posted above; Quote:
vs EVEREST vs EXPLORER
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16-10-2013, 09:47 AM | #13 | ||
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16-10-2013, 10:05 AM | #14 | ||
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Cheers for the feedback!
Yes, the next Territory is looking rather good. Initially I was a bit worried with what I saw from the leaked powerpoint presentation CGI, but after a bit of tidying up, it's looking better. As I mentioned in the article, most of the engine line-up in the U.S. will be 4-cyl. I just hope the nano V6 is still on the cards for us and the USA. |
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16-10-2013, 10:49 AM | #16 | ||
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The Everest makes the Explorer look like exactly what it is - a soccer Mum's car. The Edge (if that render is close) looks better than both of them.
Imagine if they took the new Edge bodyshell and plonked it on the Territory's platform...now that would be a brilliant car.
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16-10-2013, 10:53 AM | #17 | ||
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16-10-2013, 10:57 AM | #18 | ||
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The Edge (Territory) and Everest could happily sit next to each other in a Ford dealership showroom, I believe they are very different vehicles for different buyers.
Leave the Explorer in the US.
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16-10-2013, 12:41 PM | #19 | ||
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They need to keep the territory name, its worked well. And I know for a fact that some people think that its aleady an import anyway.
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16-10-2013, 04:51 PM | #20 | ||
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i think that Territory's market will be replaced by both Everest and Edge both splitting and increasing combined sales.
To me Ford tried to cover two segments with the Territory but never really succeeded in both at the same time. This is an opportunity to tune two vehicles up and down for Territory's existing position, I see it as a good move after Territory ends.... but not before. |
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16-10-2013, 05:15 PM | #21 | |||
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And considering how many Land Cruisers are on the road and the asking price for them, there's quickly a cashed-up market out there! |
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16-10-2013, 06:59 PM | #22 | ||
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I really like the styling direction of the Everest and the Edge. There will be nothing to stop Ford exploring new sales to make up for the loss of sales from the Falcon and Territory.
I am a fan of the current Explorer however in the above pictures it looks dated compared to the Everest and the Edge. I'm sure it will receive a make over though. These will be great vehicles with great tech. |
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16-10-2013, 08:03 PM | #23 | ||
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Anyone know what the offroad capabilities of the Edge are?
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16-10-2013, 09:48 PM | #25 | ||
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So, the Edge is in reality the successor of the Territory?
What about naming Everest as Territory, and the Edge as a Territory Edge? similar to how Toyota markets the Prado...
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16-10-2013, 09:56 PM | #26 | ||
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You know what, that's just crazy enough to work.
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16-10-2013, 10:34 PM | #27 | ||
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It could work seeing as the Everest badge is unknown here and has no badge cred. Then again neither has Edge, but positioning the "next generation Territory" as an off roader with tough looks could maintain the interest of Territory buyers...
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17-10-2013, 11:42 AM | #28 | ||
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i hate suv's
carry on
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17-10-2013, 12:50 PM | #29 | ||
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Both Edge and Everest will be smaller than Territory as far as passenger space goes, ther Territory is pretyy spacious.. Explorer is bigger again.
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17-10-2013, 03:39 PM | #30 | ||
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I'd imagine the only thing holding back the interior space would be the floor won't be as flat as Territory.
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