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Old 26-12-2013, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default Did Holden give us a peak at the new Commodore?

Surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet...unless I missed it??

Anyway, in the latest Holden propaganda campaign, there is a shot of a designer at his desk with some images around him...



Any experts here know what we're looking at?

http://www.news.com.au/finance/busin...-1226789753684

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Old 26-12-2013, 12:05 PM   #2
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Default Re: Did Holden give us a peak at the new Commodore?

I few rectified images from the shot above:

The bottom display/tablet:


The right wall:


The top display:
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Old 26-12-2013, 12:44 PM   #3
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Default Re: Did Holden give us a peak at the new Commodore?

Thanks for that, looks like a two door, so probably not commodore.
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Old 26-12-2013, 12:54 PM   #4
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There is no new commodore. it will be some rebadged Korean pile of poop.
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Old 26-12-2013, 01:12 PM   #5
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Default Re: Did Holden give us a peak at the new Commodore?

Its an advertising ploy there making a story out of nothing to get more press coverage about there "new car"
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Default Re: Did Holden give us a peak at the new Commodore?

I don't understand the logic behind this latest ad campaign.

Surely, promoting the new VF at every opportunity would be of far more economic benefit
than constantly reminding everyone that Commodore leaves in four years time but Holden name is staying...
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Old 26-12-2013, 02:15 PM   #7
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The blue picture on the computer monitor looks like a stylised version of the latest Nissan Altima, however the rest share strong Opel design DNA
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Old 26-12-2013, 02:25 PM   #8
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I don't understand the logic behind this latest ad campaign.

Surely, promoting the new VF at every opportunity would be of far more economic benefit
than constantly reminding everyone that Commodore leaves in four years time but Holden name is staying...
It's damage control.

Can't have the cruize and Captiva buyers scared off, they're the best cars for Australia they speak of aren't they???
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The blue picture on the computer monitor looks like a stylised version of the latest Nissan Altima, however the rest share strong Opel design DNA
How much thought do you reckon went into that shot?

Deliberate choice?

Or do you think the brief was, as long as it's not anything secret, we don't care?
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Old 26-12-2013, 02:34 PM   #10
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its going to be made in china
http://www.news.com.au/national/the-...-1226783057648
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Old 26-12-2013, 03:05 PM   #11
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How much thought do you reckon went into that shot?

Deliberate choice?

Or do you think the brief was, as long as it's not anything secret, we don't care?
I'd say it was a tad deliberate. Holden's design team will be lending their input into GM's other design studios around the globe - somewhat similar to how Ford Australia had some design input into the latest Mustang.

But then again they're only design sketches, which may not point to anything - heck some of the sketches I pump out in my spare time would have the rumour mills spinning.
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Old 26-12-2013, 03:08 PM   #12
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Thanks for that link, although somehow I don't it will look like that Audi A7 with a poorly photoshopped Opel Insignia front end. It looks like it had a stroke.
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Next Cruze ?? or Torana!!
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Old 26-12-2013, 06:29 PM   #14
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Default Re: Did Holden give us a peak at the new Commodore?

I also think there is a Zombie from the Walking Dead in the back ground behind his monitor.
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Old 26-12-2013, 10:25 PM   #15
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http://www.news.com.au/national/the-...-1226783057648

the last lines puzzle me.
sedan is dead---and we plan to make sedans cool by not building wagon or SUV.

would it not be easier to not make sedan and make wagon cool.
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It will be great if commodore is made in china. its easier to teach them how to assemble a car and check the build quality, than for an accountant to design one.

my impression from media is that in china there is high demand for medium sized cars with leg room in the rear. OVERDUE.

Also that there is a high demand for small engines and gas powered vehicles. HIGH DEMAND HERE IN RURAL OZ.
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Default Re: Did Holden give us a peak at the new Commodore?

Is the top picture of post #2 the Coupe 60 concept car?

Looks like it.
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Old 27-12-2013, 05:15 AM   #19
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Who cares? None of us, or a large amount of Holden owners would buy it after 2017.
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Default Re: Did Holden give us a peak at the new Commodore?

For what it is the Commodore has big boots to fill.
What car in the GM empire can fill those boots and reclaim Commodore type sales each month.
Take away those sales numbers and where does Holden sit on the annual car sales ladder.
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For what it is the Commodore has big boots to fill.
What car in the GM empire can fill those boots and reclaim Commodore type sales each month.
Take away those sales numbers and where does Holden sit on the annual car sales ladder.
The ironic thing is, that if I took your post and replaced the words GM, Holden and Commodore with Ford, Falcon and Territory, I would have an equally compelling argument.
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Old 27-12-2013, 09:23 AM   #22
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The ironic thing is, that if I took your post and replaced the words GM, Holden and Commodore with Ford, Falcon and Territory, I would have an equally compelling argument.
Except the Commodore is 3000 sales a month to Holden, and their best selling model, sadly Falcon and Terry are neither for Ford so Commodore is a bigger loss to Holden then Falcon will ever be to Ford. Plus add that Holden has played the "we're Australian cars" card for so long and will lose that instantly come 2017.
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reminding everyone that Commodore leaves in four years time but Holden name is staying...
If Motoring Talk on ABC Radio is anything to go by, most non-auto people are assuming that Holden is doing a complete shutdown. That was certainly what people were ringing in to ask when ford's announcement came out. (Questions like "how long can they get parts for their Focus?")
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i thought the 'holden' designer had a pic of a mondeo at first :P
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For what it is the Commodore has big boots to fill.
What car in the GM empire can fill those boots and reclaim Commodore type sales each month.
Take away those sales numbers and where does Holden sit on the annual car sales ladder.
Holden and Ford are (pretty much) losing money on every locally built car. If they can continue to sell the same number of imported cars,.and Malibu/Mondeo take up (some) of the three box slack; both will be in a far better position profit wise, with no factories to run and staff.

However, it will be interesting to see what the retirement of Falcon/traditional RWD Commodore will do to sales off the rest of Ford and Holden's cars.
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Except the Commodore is 3000 sales a month to Holden, and their best selling model, sadly Falcon and Terry are neither for Ford so Commodore is a bigger loss to Holden then Falcon will ever be to Ford. Plus add that Holden has played the "we're Australian cars" card for so long and will lose that instantly come 2017.
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Holden and Ford are (pretty much) losing money on every locally built car. If they can continue to sell the same number of imported cars,.and Malibu/Mondeo take up (some) of the three box slack; both will be in a far better position profit wise, with no factories to run and staff.

However, it will be interesting to see what the retirement of Falcon/traditional RWD Commodore will do to sales off the rest of Ford and Holden's cars.
loosing money on local cars ?.................... don't forget toyota.
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I don't understand the logic behind this latest ad campaign.

Surely, promoting the new VF at every opportunity would be of far more economic benefit
than constantly reminding everyone that Commodore leaves in four years time but Holden name is staying...
The commodore is not going to made in australia.

But you know you can just go down to your Holden dealer and buy many types of holden that are not made in australia now, just as it has been for years.

Holden will still be selling holdens for many years to come, they will just not be made here in aus, because australia is set on the New World Order agenda and that's all that it's about.
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- somewhat similar to how Ford Australia had some design input into the latest Mustang.
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I thought ford of aus had practically zero input into new mustang?
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