Idiots locking their kids in cars today.

[GASWAGON]

My mum said she saw a news article about the emergency services attending 25 call outs for kids being locked in cars and distressed.

One callout was for 2 very young kids locked in while the old man was in the bottleshop for a whole 10 minutes!!!! (obviously enjoying the air conditioning).

Geesus christ it was 40 something in Melbourne today a locked car would be 50degrees within 10 minutes.

This makes me sick and it would really scare some kids not to be able to get out of the car.

Why ar'nt ther fines and even demerit points being given to these stupid 'so called' parents???

[Taily]

Fines and demerit points are too lenient for something so valuable as a child.

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by Taily

Fines and demerit points are too lenient for something so valuable as a child.

Tell me about it I got a 2.5 yr old son and he definitely lets you know when he's not happy.....And he can't even talk properly yet!

I just warned the missus bigtime about it because she has lost/locked keys in car a few times.

And he actually locked himself in one warmish day cos he found the central lock button....All windows were up......Luckily RACV wernt to far away!

[Windsor220]

I wonder where you would stand legally if you bricked the window to get them out.

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

I wonder where you would stand legally if you bricked the window to get them out.

Surely they wouldn't fine you for that...geesus wots the world coming too

And that's if you can find a brick or rock or something to break the window before its too late........In a big shopping car park it would be hard to find something.

[MITCHAY]

Not 1 but 25. That is a very very disturbing picture of how some parents can be so negligent.

[Charliewool]

Good mate of mine's a Fiery...
Unwritten rule amongst them when they get called to these situations, is to "jaws of life" the B pillar to access locked in kids.
Apparently, the vehicle is then a "write off"

[superyob]

Adults would not lock themselves in a hot car yet think nothing of it when it comes to their kids...

[HELLOYOU]

Saw it again myself today.

[usernametaken]

It sounds like you're describing a full side removal.

Before you pop the front door, you need to bust the glass windows (effectively releasing the child), then you need to remove the rear door before you can cut the B pillar.

No IC would let them do it.

[Geez Louise]

I couldn't believe this myself when I saw it on the news. The numbers are just unbelievable!

There really needs to be seriously harsh penalties for people who leave kids and/or animals locked in cars on hot days.

Cheers
Col

[GASWAGON]

Surely they would just use an axe on which ever window will do the least damgage to kid/s?

Mind you breaking a curved window can take some effort!

[Geez Louise]

I think smashing a window, leads to glass shattering inside the car, and could hit those inside.

[Fab]

I don't have kids of my own, but everytime i hear this sort of stuff on the news, it infuriates me.
Penalties aren't harsh enough.

[neptune blue]

I can't believe in this day and age such stupidity still exists
a - holes the lot of them

[Struggo]

If you are ever in dire need and close to home/shop, use broken porcelain from an old/spare/new spark plug.

The glass will shatter with ease.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by EF_6

Tell me about it I got a 2.5 yr old son and he definitely lets you know when he's not happy.....And he can't even talk properly yet!

I just warned the missus bigtime about it because she has lost/locked keys in car a few times.

And he actually locked himself in one warmish day cos he found the central lock button....All windows were up......Luckily RACV wernt to far away!

Am I missing something here, why was your child in the car unattended when he locked himself in?

Easy to blame others but what about your self.

Some times people make bad judgement others don't care.

[qdda5]

I cannot understand how many stupid people there are.
You don't leave your little kids unattended for any reason in a car for gods sake.
No matter what reason it maybe for, and if you think a couple of minutes are ok they're not.
Should stick those moron parents in the car and put the windows up.
How they can be so thick just baffles me.

[JC]

Did any of the kids actually suffer, or were the parents only away for a short time? Were windows down - doesn't help much, but does slow heat build up? If no kids suffered, then it's just people overreacting; if however, the kids suffered, then the parent/s ought to be held to account. People have been leaving kids in cars for as long as I can remember (I was one), so it's not a new thing. How many kids actually die from this each year? I'd guess it's less than those killed in MVAs throughout the year, and probably less than taking the same kids on holidays at Christmas time and trying to survive the Christmas road toll.

Is it uncomfortable in a hot car for a short period of time? Yep - I spent 2 hours in mine today working in 37+ heat with the doors ope, and it was like i was in a sauna, but I'm still here. Kids in cars for 10 minutes is not fatal - certainly for longer would be, but get a grip.......had the guy taken kids into a grog shop, there'd probably be a thread about that and how irresponsible that is......

[Adamz Ghia]

I have smashed a window twice, once to get a child out of the car out front of where I worked, was 42 degrees that day and the mum was gone for so long the police had time to get there before she got back. I wasn't even questioned about breaking the window other than what I used.

The second time was for a Kelpie locked in the back of a Falcon wagon. I have no idea how long he was in there for but he was barely conscious when we lifted him out the back. That ended in a call to the RSPCA. Not sure if the dog survived or not but he was in a bad way when he was taken to the vet.

If I ever see a child or animal locked in a car on a hot day I will get them out every time. A life is more valuable than a window.

[qdda5]

Originally Posted by JC

Did any of the kids actually suffer, or were the parents only away for a short time? Were windows down - doesn't help much, but does slow heat build up? If no kids suffered, then it's just people overreacting; if however, the kids suffered, then the parent/s ought to be held to account. People have been leaving kids in cars for as long as I can remember (I was one), so it's not a new thing. How many kids actually die from this each year? I'd guess it's less than those killed in MVAs throughout the year, and probably less than taking the same kids on holidays at Christmas time and trying to survive the Christmas road toll.

Is it uncomfortable in a hot car for a short period of time? Yep - I spent 2 hours in mine today working in 37+ heat with the doors ope, and it was like i was in a sauna, but I'm still here. Kids in cars for 10 minutes is not fatal - certainly for longer would be, but get a grip.......had the guy taken kids into a grog shop, there'd probably be a thread about that and how irresponsible that is......

What a bizarre thing to post.
Did any of the kids suffer. God hopefully not but kids have been died under these circumstances.

Kids can suffer death or permanent damage of some sort if in a car in extreme heat for 10 minutes or less.

Its not a new thing for people to leave kids in cars however it should not happen and needs to change.

Years ago this sort of thing never made the news as it does now so no-one would have thought it was an issue.

People need to leave the past behind and get a grip of the future.

Why would you even compromise the life of your child cause it used to happen when you were a kid.

Poor form I feel.

[data_mine]

Originally Posted by superyob

Adults would not lock themselves in a hot car yet think nothing of it when it comes to their kids...

don't bet on it.


http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...108-30hde.html

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by data_mine

don't bet on it.


http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...108-30hde.html

Interesting article, you would think these cars with all the gadgets would have a manual override system.

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by trublu

Interesting article, you would think these cars with all the gadgets would have a manual override system.

They do don't they....? The keypad has a regular key inside it that you can use to start it...?

[GTMOND]

We all do it at some point, at the servo filling up or running in to get milk. It's common sense
If your planning going shopping and leaving them there than that's just rediculous, common sense is not very common unfortunately.

[Wretched]

No living being should be left in a hot car. It is pathetic that people will leave children or pets in hot cars, common sense just doesn't seem to prevail.
If it is "too much of a hassle" to take them in and out of the car then don't bring them along.

[Taily]

Originally Posted by qdda5

What a bizarre thing to post.
Did any of the kids suffer. God hopefully not but kids have been died under these circumstances.

Kids can suffer death or permanent damage of some sort if in a car in extreme heat for 10 minutes or less.

Its not a new thing for people to leave kids in cars however it should not happen and needs to change.

Years ago this sort of thing never made the news as it does now so no-one would have thought it was an issue.

People need to leave the past behind and get a grip of the future.

Why would you even compromise the life of your child cause it used to happen when you were a kid.

Poor form I feel.

News? But then again the media make and distort and sensationalise news to suit themselves these days and try and score points by taking the "moral high ground" as such, which usually only succeeds in making them look more amateurish than they already are...

I can see your point (and it is very valid) but I think you're both referring to two totally different things. I feel that JC was not referring to the "car locked, windows up, kids left inside, red hot day" scenario, rather something more along the lines of a nice day, car parked in the shade, all windows down, and perhaps even a door left open so the (probably no younger than say a first/second grader) kid/s could get in/out if they had to - and an adult away from the car for no more than 5-10 minutes, not away for hours on end or in the pub or something similar.

Slightly different scenario, and one many of us were subjected to as kids, not the utterly stupid other scenario... Do any of you realise that the law in NSW actually means you have to actually do this to your kids (windows up, lock the car etc) in a petrol station when you go and pay for fuel - as it states "if the person in control of the motor vehicle has to leave the vehicle unattended...."? How stupid is that? Not only that, who ever does it? Not me... My kids' window is always down if I have to walk away like that.

We live in a time now where the government has gone from running the country to just plainly interferring in people's day to day lives.

[staity]

I have a 2 year old and am of the belief that if you need something from the shops you have to take the kids with you, if its too much of a hassle to unbuckle them and take them with you, clearly you don't need the item that badly.

[Mr Brooksy]

I cant for the life of me understand why you "need" to leave young children locked in a car at all. Being a parent myself whenever I leave the vehicle I always remove the child/children even just to pay for fuel (on the odd occasion I dont plan ahead and have the car filled prior or have enough to do shopping etc and get home again with enogh fuel to fill up without the kid(s)). If it takes me an extra 5 mins to get them in and out of a seat then tough. And to the impatient self important idiot beeping and making obscene getures they can go jump.

As a parent we have a responsibility and right to protect our children. Some people seem to forget that.

I read an article recently were a young mother who left her 2 todlers in the car undercover while she went shopping for 2 hours! If it had not been for a bystander and emergency services those kids would have been in there for that long as apposed to 15 odd mins they were there. Criminal charges were laid thankfully.

[blackf6]

I don't always get my children out of the car, but I also leave it running with the aircon on. And will only do it if car is in line of sight, and if I'm only going to be a minute or two. Never for extended periods. I also take the keypad with me so I can lock the doors but leave the key in the ignition. Still illegal.