Fuel shortage (eastern states)

[Charliewool]

Seems Cootes transport woes continue..
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&s...5hhp5V6uajUKUA

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Seems Cootes transport woes continue..
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&s...5hhp5V6uajUKUA

Petrol prices should become cheaper then, as transport costs account for a few cents per litre. Without no petrol being transported, they can now take those few cents a litre off.

[cheap]

You'd have to ask what were the transport inspectors doing, as these problems didn't occur overnight.

[GASWAGON]

The Shell servo in Emerald Vic is completely closed......No fuel AT ALL and not even an attendent. Doors locked and tagged out bowsers. This is a country town at about 25klms away from nearest other servo's.

The tow trucks will be busy this week.

And my missus EF just stopped running on petrol after a new fuel pump a few months ago and she ran out of LPG other day. Had to get a tow home. Cant do anything until the Shell opens again!

[GASWAGON]

Even worse in Sydney going by this latest article.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/sydne...217-32w9k.html

[csv8]

McAleese will axe about 540 jobs including truck drivers and workshop staff from Cootes Transport after deciding to halve the size of the beleaguered fuel-haulage business in the wake of what it described as relentless government scrutiny.

The transport company will also sell about half of the trucks and trailers in Cootes’ fleet after losing contracts with Shell and BP, and withdrawing from supplying 7-Eleven in several states.

McAleese said the jobs would be gradually lost over the next six months as the contracts ended. The company has set aside about $13 million for redundancies at Cootes this financial year.
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About 1250 of McAleese’s 2000-strong workforce nationwide are employed at Cootes, which the company bought about two years ago from private equity firm CHAMP.

The job losses will primarily include truck drivers but also workshop and clerical staff.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/540-j...#ixzz2tfc2CCAy

[GCRXR6]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Petrol prices should become cheaper then, as transport costs account for a few cents per litre. Without no petrol being transported, they can now take those few cents a litre off.

???

[Nikked]

I remember when we used to get Shell fuel sent up to Tamworth on trains...should return to that .

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by csv8

McAleese will axe about 540 jobs including truck drivers and workshop staff from Cootes Transport after deciding to halve the size of the beleaguered fuel-haulage business in the wake of what it described as relentless government scrutiny.
The transport company will also sell about half of the trucks and trailers in Cootes’ fleet after losing contracts with Shell and BP, and withdrawing from supplying 7-Eleven in several states.
McAleese said the jobs would be gradually lost over the next six months as the contracts ended. The company has set aside about $13 million for redundancies at Cootes this financial year.
About 1250 of McAleese’s 2000-strong workforce nationwide are employed at Cootes, which the company bought about two years ago from private equity firm CHAMP.
The job losses will primarily include truck drivers but also workshop and clerical staff.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/540-j...#ixzz2tfc2CCAy

As one of the ministers said, its odd that they can find money for redundancies, but couldnt find it for maintenance. Obviously there are short cuts being taken, but one does have to wonder if cootes have been under bidding to win work. Once cartage contracts start building in the real costs of transport, then it appears that fuel prices at the pump will rise to cover these extra costs.

[BPXR6T]

Is it as bad as the media are hyping out there? I got caught out last time. Right now I'm away for work and the car is parked in a garage. Wondering if I'm going to get caught short when I jump in the car Friday night and try to do the 3.5hr commute home.

[uniacidz]

In St George Sutherland Shire area, no dramas round here at all.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by BPXR6T

Is it as bad as the media are hyping out there? I got caught out last time. Right now I'm away for work and the car is parked in a garage. Wondering if I'm going to get caught short when I jump in the car Friday night and try to do the 3.5hr commute home.

Theres plenty of petrol around. After all, theres less petrol tankers driving around, so plenty of fuel for others. Just drive straight to the terminal gates.

[joolz]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Petrol prices should become cheaper then, as transport costs account for a few cents per litre. Without no petrol being transported, they can now take those few cents a litre off.

Really!

In regards to cartage costs its up the crappa. How can Melbourne fuel prices peak in recent weeks at $159.9 yet in Ararat just over 200kms from Melbourne its a steady $151.9.

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by Nikked

I remember when we used to get Shell fuel sent up to Tamworth on trains...should return to that .

Careful, you'll upset them.

Plus Australia doesn't have the rail infrastructure to consistently and reliably deliver on a regular basis.

[351EL]

Without trucks Australia stops.
The rail infrastructure is there what is missing is servos at railway stations.

[FG50T]

My BP hasn't had Ultimate for 9 days

[Bluehoon]

No problems with LPG.

We all got legs too, bet those damn push bikers are laughing at us..

Although, push bike riders can and always will require those lycra "coffee rides" to be shoved...

[Davehoos]

state government E-breifings to pollies claim no need for rail frieght.

not needed. the system we have is working.. probably the same morrons that say That all under 40 year olds don't want a car and want to live in Sydney CBD or bondi. up on the web for the public if you care to find them.

ran out of petrol Monday at local servo. workmates have already milked my trucks generator.

[Struggo]

Originally Posted by 351EL

Without trucks Australia stops.
The rail infrastructure is there what is missing is servos at railway stations.

Australia once road on the sheep's back, now it rides on the back of a "B Double"

[dom_105]

Time to panic buy I would have thought.

[Kayos]

oakleigh BP No.1 no fuel, accross the rd BP No.2 Ulti 98 $1.70 yeah that's not right!
To the fat cat laughing while rolling around on his zebra skinned king size bed watching his 80" LCD screen counting his bills that was handed down to him.. burn buddy burn..

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by 351EL

Without trucks Australia stops.
The rail infrastructure is there what is missing is servos at railway stations.

We have fuel depots on the line, the fuel was stored in tanks and trucked elsewhere from the depots.

[Itsme]

What fuel shortage!

[mik]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

As one of the ministers said, its odd that they can find money for redundancies, but couldnt find it for maintenance. Obviously there are short cuts being taken, but one does have to wonder if cootes have been under bidding to win work. Once cartage contracts start building in the real costs of transport, then it appears that fuel prices at the pump will rise to cover these extra costs.

It is a cut throat business in trucks, and under cutting has always been happening, and in tough times it gets worse some of which a result of being squeezed for rates or lack of work.
The maintenance problem probably stems from this.
You have to have a very good constitution to stay in trucking......... probably with a degree of insanity and a liking as for getting continually kicked in the gonads as well.

[No.6]

I hope this leads to a zombie apocalypse. Don't ask me how, don't ask me why. Just make it happen.

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by trublu

What fuel shortage!

Mate read my earlier post about Emerald.....The Shell has been closed for a week!

And this article is saying thers about 150 Cootes jobs to be axed soon.....Not bloody good!

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/mo...217-32wl9.html

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by EF_6

Mate read my earlier post about Emerald.....The Shell has been closed for a week!

And this article is saying thers about 150 Cootes jobs to be axed soon.....Not bloody good!

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/mo...217-32wl9.html

No where as bad as the 1st time & if cootes go under so be it, happens all the time in the trucking industry.

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Petrol prices should become cheaper then, as transport costs account for a few cents per litre. Without no petrol being transported, they can now take those few cents a litre off.

But then there's no profits . That's considered a loss in the minds of these people, despite them losing no actual capital. Obviously times is too tough for them to afford a dictionary.

If Shell/oil companies are struggling to stay viable then we really do need a new system. Can't keep patching it forever.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by No.6

I hope this leads to a zombie apocalypse. Don't ask me how, don't ask me why. Just make it happen.

It wont be too long now. Conventional oil production hasnt increased for the last 9 years or so, and yet the middle class of china will be around half a billion people soon. Just wait until the middle class of china and india want to live like us. People like to think electric powered vehicles will make up the difference, but I just cant see the electric powered trucks carting food around australia. If you look at all the major oil producing companies in the world, even at $100 for a barrel of oil, they arent doing too well. They make good profits, but they have to invest all those profits to ensure next years production doesnt fall below this year, and they are still falling behind. People will wake up one morning and say WTF.

Adelaide for instance only keeps a few weeks supply on hand. Wouldnt take more than a hiccup to screw Adelaide. Cut of the oil and you cant imagine that 1 million people will be surviving on the veges grown in their 100 square metre back yards.

Not a fan of those dooms day preppers, but everyone should be keeping a few jerry cans of fuel lying around at home.

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

Not a fan of those dooms day preppers, but everyone should be keeping a few jerry cans of fuel lying around at home.

I think we'll need more than few fuel cans, more like a nuclear bunker with 100 years supply of food and a big toilet, because we won't be going anywhere! It won't be a sudden zombie apocalypse, but Cootes are just giving us taste of what it could be like.

Just looking at it soberly: yes, the picture you paint is correct. It'll slowly dwindle and become more expensive. The manufacturers that offered power by sustainable local fuel (gas) have been sent packing. All of you driving diesel cars will find that's reserved for essential services and trucks. The Federal government has no energy security policy (probably doesn't even know what that means) and a PM who thinks it'll all just go on forever.

Meanwhile, car use in the major cities has pretty-much stabilised since 2005, more and more young people are opting out of getting driving licences and public transport use is bursting at the seams. The Federal government's response: stop funding urban rail projects and build more roads.

No doubt the likes of Cootes will be allowed to keep running with faulty trucks because governments are afraid of having fuel cut off and the voter backlash from that.

Between all this and local manufacturing collapsing I'm perpetually grateful we're blessed with good government in this country.