QPol to Remove ALL Speed Camera Warning Signs.

[csv8]

QUEENSLAND police have been told to remove signs warning drivers of upcoming mobile speed camera traps.

“Speed camera in use” signs that were placed ahead of police camera vans were deemed “too problematic” and too small by the state’s Road Policing Command.


It comes as almost 600,000 motorists on Queensland roads were fined more than $87 million in 2014 by the mobile cameras.

The new directive, which began on July 1, coincides with the minimum fine for speeding increasing to $157 for vehicles less than 13km/h over the limit.

“The signs were problematic and too small,” Road Policing Command Inspector Allan Hales said.

“If you are in an urban area you either put them on the footpath and people whinge about that or you put them on a street and people whinge you are taking up another car space.

“So what we actually did was increase the placarding on the side of vehicles ... and there are ‘Join the Drive’ logos on there and also ‘Road Policing Command’ in bigger letters.”

Queensland has about 47 mobile camera vehicles, including 12 covert vehicles which have never used signage.

Insp Hales said he did not expect the changes to increase the number of fines “because the signs were so small and were out of place sometimes”.

“The policy always was that they were past the camera,” he said.

“It was mainly really about what was the best — the placard on the side of the van is larger, it’s easy to see, and we thought that was better than having a small sign that people sometimes get distracted by.”

Insp Hales said data showed a drop in the road network speeds of motorists in the past few years.

Police are now focused on getting drivers in the lower bracket of speeding to slow down further.

“It might only be one or two kilometres an hour but the research shows that even those small changes are significant to the frequency and severity of crashes,” Insp Hales said.

Police would be on highways and in school zones as children prepared to go back to classes next week.

RACQ executive manager of technical and safety policy Steve Spalding did not see the change as misleading.

“I think police have always used a mix of overt and covert, and we certainly support that,” he said.

Mobile camera fines

2012: 359,764 fines over 67,170 hours — 5.36 per hour

2013: 436,080 fines over 92,303 — 4.72 per hour

2014: 597,959 fines over 97,080 hours — 6.16 per hour

[DJM83]

The ones that they had sitting parallel to the road

[blackf6]

As stated won't make a difference, as they obscured or obstructed the signs anyway. And they also have unmarked covert vehicles now.

[AussieCJ7]

Originally Posted by csv8

Police are now focused on getting drivers in the lower bracket of speeding to slow down further.

“It might only be one or two kilometres an hour but the research shows that even those small changes are significant to the frequency and severity of crashes,” Insp Hales said.

And what studies are these and full transparent disclosure on the scientific methods taken to prove this claim.


Given for most accidents there is no investigation and as such no scientific root cause determination I find this pretty hard to believe there is credible data supporting this claim

[marty351]

Sounds like the horse and cart will make a comeback. - And then get fined for taking a poo.

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by AussieCJ7

And what studies are these and full transparent disclosure on the scientific methods taken to prove this claim.

It's the human genetics study that proves that most people are so apathetic or stupid they accept without question everything that authorities tell them.

It's backed up by the study by State Treasury that state revenue will collapse if enough people aren't booked for going 1 km/h over the limit.

[deesun]

Originally Posted by DeJaVu GT

As stated won't make a difference, as they obscured or obstructed the signs anyway. And they also have unmarked covert vehicles now.

Correct, no difference at all. I got flashed a few weeks ago but apparently no pic taken. It was 11pm at night with 2 cars every 5 mins along the road. Real danger there. I did a uey and went back to have a look. The sign was leaning on the shopfront he was sitting outside of.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by new2ford

It's the human genetics study that proves that most people are so apathetic or stupid they accept without question everything that authorities tell them.

It's backed up by the study by State Treasury that state revenue will collapse if enough people aren't booked for going 1 km/h over the limit.

I would contend that most people (silent majority again) are too busy with the day to day struggles life presents, to be worried about that which they cannot change...

[Spurious]

It's a case of "change the rules to change the behaviour".
Then when the behaviour does change, they can further amend the rules!

Plus it keeps the revenue coming in when rule changes catch people out!

[1TUFFUTE]

I always thought the sign was so locals and anyone specific to a local situation(postman,firemen) could officially see it was a radar van and not some illegally parked child snatcher for eg!
And they're claiming the signs distract people what.....and a radar van suddenly noticed doesn't.

Those police vans would slow down traffic EXACTLY the same amount if the police wearnt sitting inside....but solving real crimes and so on. But yes it's all about money.......not one bit about community or safety.

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by superyob

I would contend that most people (silent majority again) are too busy with the day to day struggles life presents, to be worried about that which they cannot change...

That's what the people in power who want ever-increasing control over people's lives trade on.

[TheSneakiness]

What, the signs that are basically non existent anyway?