collection rego

[Boza]

Does anyone think we will ever see one registration for an entire collection.

If like me for example you like doing your own thing don't want to be part of a club or social group but have 10+ cars you would like to use regularly (idon't have 10+) just example.

Do you think it would be a good idea for like a collection rego you pay one lump sum let's say for 3-6 months like during peak cruising season have a log book in the car and just use it sparingly a few times a month I personally would love that if I am ever in a position to collect cars to pay one rego and use whatever car I desire on that day good idea or should I go get my flame suit.

[EFFalcon]

and vicroads get less $$ from us? yeah not going to happen.

Simply taking TAC from the rego and applying it to the Licence cost would be a much more appropriate system.

[Mowdit]

Originally Posted by EFFalcon

Simply taking TAC from the rego and applying it to the Licence cost would be a much more appropriate system.

But the TAC premium is based on seats (they don't care if its only one person) and weight/size (as to how much damage you can do to others)......

Besides, they collect off every car sitting in a garage or underground carpark whilst you take public transport each day !!!

[Express]

The cost of owning multiple cars is the pits but what I hate just as much is the amount of time spent every year running back and forth to get them passed for rego.

After the first five years where a vehicle doesn’t require inspection for registration, I’d like to see a system where passenger vehicles for private use only need to be inspected every three years and not every year.

[Mowdit]

BOZA, to answer your question
Fast forward between 200-500 years and if you are lucky enough to be the great great grandson of Jay Leno (being one of the very few elite rich who not only has a few cars, but can afford the $3,000 per litre for fuel)
Then yeah

[jmack]

[QUOTE=Mowdit;5480670]But the TAC premium is based on seats (they don't care if its only one person) and weight/size (as to how much damage you can do to others)......

not in victoria utes are the same price as sedans and bikes are dearer again

[Mowdit]

Originally Posted by Express

I’d like to see a system where passenger vehicles for private use only need to be inspected every three years and not every year.

Top idea EXPRESS

Now all you need to do is some study, get a job in the RMS/RTA, do truckloads of *** kissing and ladder climbing, join local or state GOVCO in ya spare time and after 15-30 years put it forward as your thesis from university !
Then and only then do we all stand a chance

I totally agree in principle, IF the respective departments can agree that a car of Vintage or collectable age that has a documented history, particularly of low klm should be in another class of reduced rego and third party insurance !

There has to be something better than club rego, if it is a nice day and I decide to take out my pride and joy then I shouldn't have to make an application in advance for it under club rego rules

They already keep track of how many klm a vehicle travels (as part of anti theft/tampering/re birth) so WHY shouldn't it be like my insurance for an occasional driver ?

Reduced rate of comprehensive insurance, rego and TPI because my pride and joy is NOT a DAILY driver (much the same as commercial/trucks pay more, because they travel further)

Sorry to say it though, GOVCO effectively double dip on anything and everything (look at property stamp duty in Syd, average is $30,000+ for what ?)
So don't expect change.........................................

[2011G6E]

I remember this being brought up as an eminently sensible idea maybe thirty years ago when we were in a bike club.
It was when people were talking about motorcycles and multiple bikes on one rego.

The system was as simple as simple can be...you choose one "regular use" bike (or car I suppose), and register that vehicle. Then as you add vehicles, they are added to the rego with a small one off fee (or even a small yearly fee) for each extra car/bike. You can only use one bike/car at a time, so it sounds great.

Then the inevitable question pops up...
"How do you stop several people using one rego and scamming the system?".
...for which there is an equally simple answer.

You only get one licence plate, to be swapped onto whatever vehicle you are using that day...all the vehicles you have are linked to that one plate (and it would be even easier to police these days with number plate recognition cameras in cop cars), and if you are caught trying to scam the system, as well as a heavy fine you lose the privilege of being allowed to be under it.

How bloody hard would that be?

[Mowdit]

[QUOTE=jmack;5480750]

Originally Posted by Mowdit

But the TAC premium is based on seats (they don't care if its only one person) and weight/size (as to how much damage you can do to others)......

not in victoria utes are the same price as sedans and bikes are dearer again

Bikes are deemed to be higher risk, not only of accident, but of severity of injury and in turn cost.

Same as a ute, less seats/occupants to be injured, but higher pay load and then potential injury to the other vehicle occupants.

I could be wrong (at home am often wrong regardless !), but registration was largely based on weight back in the day, then factor in passengers and purpose to come up with a magical number.

It all comes down to the statistics, and the TAC constantly review all accidents and the associated costs...

I have buried a 17 yo and the only cost was for the headstone, TAC covered everything else !
Second was a mate who "scalped" himself in a Landcruiser after rear ending a semi at 90+kph difference, flown from Geelong to Alfred Hospital, 7 operations and 6 months, then when he got out TAC paid for chauffer driven cars from Geelong to The Alfred each fortnight, reducing to monthly after 4 months then monthly for a further 12 months, all on top of rehab, all paid for by TAC (it never cost him a cent, even though he was 0.142 BAC, he didn't even have to pay for the semi he rear ended at the traffic lights)
Apart from a bit a scaring, he ended up OK.

Same cannot be said for some others, even being young whom remain permanently in old age care. :-(

I do not know the cost figures, but the amount per year must be staggering

[devilcv8]

ACT rego has a nice system where you can renew rego up to 12 months after expiry and the rego starts from when you pay it. So where you have more than 1 car that doesn't get driven daily you can rego one car for 3, 6 or 12 months then just as that one expires you rego the first one again. Works well in certain circumstances.
Me, I have a spare car in my son's name that gets rego chucked on it when needed.

[Tassie f100]

I think it would be a much fairer system for people to pay a higher ( say $600) per year for their drivers licence rather than vehicle rego because at the end of the day 1 can only drive 1 vehicle at any 1 time.If this was the case people wouldn,t be financially penalised for owning multiple vehicles

[Sox]

A small annual admin payment, and the rest as a fuel tax.
User pays is always fairest.

[Pedro]

I don't know if this still applies but in Qld you could register yourself as a car dealer and get a portable dealer plate that you strap on any car you are driving and it is deemed registered whether it is currently registered or not.

[Stefan]

REgo is only a small part of the equation. Owning lots of cars, goes way beyond just buying them, I had 5 cars registered at one point and it was a head ache.

Inspection x 5
Rego x 5
Servicing x 5
Storing x 5
Washing x 5
Insurance x 5
Repairs x 5

Besides the cost, its just the time and logistics of the above + add kids/family/work/holidays, yeah it was cool for a while but becomes a drain and a chore real fast.

If you have unlimited funds yeah no problem. I assume rego is no issue then either.

[Boza]

Originally Posted by Mowdit

BOZA, to answer your question
Fast forward between 200-500 years and if you are lucky enough to be the great great grandson of Jay Leno (being one of the very few elite rich who not only has a few cars, but can afford the $3,000 per litre for fuel)
Then yeah

I'll take it as it comes right now, i'll worry about the future when i get there

[Boza]

Originally Posted by Pedro

I don't know if this still applies but in Qld you could register yourself as a car dealer and get a portable dealer plate that you strap on any car you are driving and it is deemed registered whether it is currently registered or not.

yeah we used to have trade plates as well for mechanics car dealers etc..
dunno if there still around though

[jmack]

Originally Posted by Stefan

REgo is only a small part of the equation. Owning lots of cars, goes way beyond just buying them, I had 5 cars registered at one point and it was a head ache.

Inspection x 5
Rego x 5
Servicing x 5
Storing x 5
Washing x 5
Insurance x 5
Repairs x 5

Besides the cost, its just the time and logistics of the above + add kids/family/work/holidays, yeah it was cool for a while but becomes a drain and a chore real fast.

If you have unlimited funds yeah no problem. I assume rego is no issue then either.

yeah i know the feeling 5 cars,2 bike and the boat and i drive a company car 6 days a week .gets to be an expensive addiction.id be happy just to pay a tac fee on my licence,they ohauled the fire levy why not this

[Express]

Originally Posted by Mowdit

Top idea EXPRESS

Now all you need to do is some study, get a job in the RMS/RTA, do truckloads of *** kissing and ladder climbing, join local or state GOVCO in ya spare time and after 15-30 years put it forward as your thesis from university !
Then and only then do we all stand a chance

I totally agree in principle, IF the respective departments can agree that a car of Vintage or collectable age that has a documented history, particularly of low klm should be in another class of reduced rego and third party insurance !

There has to be something better than club rego, if it is a nice day and I decide to take out my pride and joy then I shouldn't have to make an application in advance for it under club rego rules

They already keep track of how many klm a vehicle travels (as part of anti theft/tampering/re birth) so WHY shouldn't it be like my insurance for an occasional driver ?

Reduced rate of comprehensive insurance, rego and TPI because my pride and joy is NOT a DAILY driver (much the same as commercial/trucks pay more, because they travel further)

Sorry to say it though, GOVCO effectively double dip on anything and everything (look at property stamp duty in Syd, average is $30,000+ for what ?)
So don't expect change.........................................

When I was a younger man I worked as a Traffic Engineer for three local Councils, two in Sydney and 1 in the bush and got to know the workings of the then RTA very well.

I still have 2 mates who work in the Senior Executive Service of the RMS and I can tell you if they do make an independent recommendation they don’t make the decisions, the Minister’s Political Advisers come into the meetings and their offices and tell them how it’s going to be.

So I’d need to become a Politician and not just any Politician, I’d have to be a Government Minister and that Ministership would have to control the RMS and as much as I might like to change the rules, when it comes to decreasing revenue raising I would be over ruled by the Premier & Finance.

So I would have to be the State Premier and when I achieved that I also would not want to give up a revenue raiser and would approach it as multiple vehicle ownership being a luxury not a necessity.

You can’t change the system when raising money is involved so I’d accept I have to pay for multiple ownership but I’d like to remove the headache of yearly inspections and pay the equivalent of three years rego and CTP’s in one hit for the benefit of having three years without inspections.

Most cars don’t deteriorate that much in a year, so three years between inspections doesn’t seem so bad to me.

[XG_Falcon]

Any proposal that aims to reduce the amount of taxes you pay... won't happen.

[EFFalcon]

Originally Posted by Stefan

REgo is only a small part of the equation. Owning lots of cars, goes way beyond just buying them, I had 5 cars registered at one point and it was a head ache.

Inspection x 5
Rego x 5
Servicing x 5
Storing x 5
Washing x 5
Insurance x 5
Repairs x 5

Besides the cost, its just the time and logistics of the above + add kids/family/work/holidays, yeah it was cool for a while but becomes a drain and a chore real fast.

If you have unlimited funds yeah no problem. I assume rego is no issue then either.

Inspection is state dependant.
Servicing depends on vehicle use, less use, less services.
Storing, you deal with it.
Washing, same as Servicing, less use, less cleaning.
Insurance on limited use vehicles is lower then a daily driver.
Repairs much like Servicing.

Rego is the only one that more or less works as a flat cost regardless of use.

[brismike]

Originally Posted by Express

The cost of owning multiple cars is the pits but what I hate just as much is the amount of time spent every year running back and forth to get them passed for rego.

After the first five years where a vehicle doesn’t require inspection for registration, I’d like to see a system where passenger vehicles for private use only need to be inspected every three years and not every year.

Just move to Queensland. You only have to get an inspection if you sell a car privately.
😉

Cheers Mike

[Express]

Originally Posted by brismike

Just move to Queensland. You only have to get an inspection if you sell a car privately.
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Cheers Mike

You just made me cry.

[Marquis]

Yeh but pay over a grand for a v8 and over 800 for a 6 cyl rego

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by Pedro

I don't know if this still applies but in Qld you could register yourself as a car dealer and get a portable dealer plate that you strap on any car you are driving and it is deemed registered whether it is currently registered or not.

Exactly. An age-old well known system that shows that a "collection rego" type system would work perfectly well...but they keep saying it would be "too hard"...

[Express]

Originally Posted by Marquis

Yeh but pay over a grand for a v8 and over 800 for a 6 cyl rego

Wow

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by Express

Wow

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Yep...and people in other states wonder why young Queensland blokes never really went for V8's much...too punishing to afford them, and always has been.

[LeadFoot81]

[QUOTE=jmack;5480750]

Originally Posted by Mowdit

But the TAC premium is based on seats (they don't care if its only one person) and weight/size (as to how much damage you can do to others)......

not in victoria utes are the same price as sedans and bikes are dearer again

Actually, it currently costs $652.80 per year to register:

'Goods carrying vehicles - up to 2 tonnes

Vehicle primarily designed for carrying goods includes utility and dual cab ute.'

...compared to $719.90 for a Passenger vehicle.

[jmack]

[QUOTE=LeadFoot81;5483093]

Originally Posted by jmack

Actually, it currently costs $652.80 per year to register:

'Goods carrying vehicles - up to 2 tonnes

Vehicle primarily designed for carrying goods includes utility and dual cab ute.'

...compared to $719.90 for a Passenger vehicle.

tac fee 101 passenger vehicle $449
tac fee 201 ute up to 2t $450
tac fee 391 bike over 500cc $473
this is in victoria

[LeadFoot81]

[QUOTE=jmack;5483231]

Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

tac fee 101 passenger vehicle $449
tac fee 201 ute up to 2t $450
tac fee 391 bike over 500cc $473
this is in victoria

I'm looking at my rego renewal (ute) and the TAC charge is $341.00 with a grand total of $652.80 payable (as per VicRoads website)

[jmack]

[QUOTE=LeadFoot81;5483279]

Originally Posted by jmack

I'm looking at my rego renewal (ute) and the TAC charge is $341.00 with a grand total of $652.80 payable (as per VicRoads website)

your lucky enough to be in the medium risk postcdes