Greens want fossil fuel car ban by 2030

Bossxr8 · 13-03-2018, 04:15 PM

https://www.goauto.com.au/news/gener...-13/70736.html

This would be a complete joke if the morons weren't serious.

Might have to build a few new nuclear power stations to charge up all these EV's

roKWiz · 13-03-2018, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

https://www.goauto.com.au/news/gener...-13/70736.html

This would be a complete joke if the morons weren't serious.

Might have to build a few new nuclear power stations to charge up all these EV's

I've already topped up my public transport cards.

Mercury Bullet · 13-03-2018, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

https://www.goauto.com.au/news/gener...-13/70736.html

This would be a complete joke if the morons weren't serious.

Might have to build a few new nuclear power stations to charge up all these EV's

Lol they are becoming more irrelevant by the year.

Um who do they think is going to pay for the upkeep of infrastructure?
Oh that's right, they want to disband our military and let indo move in.

Fringe lunatics.

FG50T · 13-03-2018, 04:40 PM

It will happen 2030-2040 here, guarantee that

Mercury Bullet · 13-03-2018, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FG50T

It will happen 2030-2040 here, guarantee that

It will never happen until they get some range.

Nobody who lives in the bush will buy one and I'm yet to see one driving out on the highway, not one.

LG17 · 13-03-2018, 06:14 PM

People want Greens banned by 2030.

Trump · 13-03-2018, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LG17

People want Greens banned by 2030.

They have become such an anachronism, they have no relevance or legitimacy. Yet the SJW tards keep voting for them.

A phased replacement program would make sense over 20-25 years, giving the industry time to increase range, clean up the batteries (both manufacture and disposal), and most importantly, let economies of scale bring the price down of EV's to equivalent IC cars.

mr smith · 13-03-2018, 06:54 PM

Pack of clowns...

marty351 · 13-03-2018, 07:32 PM

Taxpayer funded clowns.

**Raptor** · 13-03-2018, 08:10 PM

It's good to set stretch targets.

It'll happen. Get used to the idea.

Blue Roo · 13-03-2018, 08:13 PM

If the Greens ever won an Election Out Right. Every one would be out of job. No Transport on the roads. And Australia's Exports in Minerals would be dead. And the Greens would say "How good are we in this country."

**Fordman1** · 13-03-2018, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LG17

People want Greens banned by 2020.

I fixed your comment

Ghiaman · 13-03-2018, 08:18 PM

Watermelons...
They got 10% of the vote at our recent state election.
Likely to just have 1 MP in parliament.
Blamed everyone but themselves in election night speech.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Itsme · 13-03-2018, 08:34 PM

Don't underestimate the Greens, they are gaining momentum especially in the councils and your two big parties do suck up to them at times for political scoring.

Anything possible with these loonies.

simon varley · 13-03-2018, 09:30 PM

well I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat if they were more competitively priced. Range is perfectly adequate for 95% of my driving including my daily commute and I would upgrade my solar with a battery to charge overnight.

zipping · 13-03-2018, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon varley

well I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat if they were more competitively priced. Range is perfectly adequate for 95% of my driving including my daily commute and I would upgrade my solar with a battery to charge overnight.

So just ignore the 5%?

Isn't it that 5% that makes them unviable overall I mean you buy a car for transport, which means you still have to factor in that 5% in time, dollars, inconvenience and planning etc

The greens don't need to change any laws the market will take care of itself as it always does but they know better.

Sabantien · 13-03-2018, 09:50 PM

Incentives, not bans.

This would be a policy that will punish low income people.

I know I can't afford a brand new car. Even if I could, do I want to?

Even if someone does get the car, in a rental good luck getting your landlord to put anything in to support an EV.
Jesus. I can't get my landlord to fix my front door so it will close.

When I lived in the city i could only park on the street in the last place I lived. No way to charge.
Prior to that there were 3 carports for 8 flats. Who gets the charger?

Now I live in the outback and I suppose I could run a cable out to the car, assuming it will plug into the wall and doesn't require a dedicated charger.

But I also could never go anywhere other than around town or to and from work. Only a tesla has the range (barely) to get me to the next down and back, which I do a few times a month.
Where am I going to get a quarter of a mil to spend on a car?

Fordblue1000 · 14-03-2018, 12:02 AM

Better get used to them guys. Look at the PHEV sales almost doubling each year for the last 3. Small steps will see these on the roads as time goes by. There is the renault zoe released this year with up to 400klm range. At a price of about 42k thats not too bad. And even better is workplaces are starting to instal chargers for their employees to use, so thats a win for the employee getting free charging of their car. Also look at some of teslas marketing, where they say free charging for the life of the vehicle ownership. So compare that price against a similar sized benz or bmw it starts to look pretty good. I guess im a bit biased as i drive a EV alot. I get free parking and charging when i go to town. I get free charging when i park at the airport. Lotsa shops have free charging as well. It all kind of puts things into perspective really. As time moves ahead more cars will be around, and those perks will not always be there! But i agree we wont see significant figures on the roads till 2030.

Sent from my SM-G928I using Tapatalk

Ben73 · 14-03-2018, 12:49 AM

Ok so the greens said what they want, but did they actually offer any legitmant ideas on how to make it possible?
Being the greens I highly doubt it.

dunga · 14-03-2018, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon varley

well I'd buy an EV in a heartbeat if they were more competitively priced. Range is perfectly adequate for 95% of my driving including my daily commute and I would upgrade my solar with a battery to charge overnight.

You wouldn't be able to afford a battery big enough to charge an ev overnight totally inefficient using a battery to charge a battery. Io upgrade your solar and buy a battery would cost 15 to 20 thousand dollars plus the 50 k for an electric vehicle for what a 20 dollar saving on petrol a day. only my opinion.

dunga · 14-03-2018, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben73

Ok so the greens said what they want, but did they actually offer any legitmant ideas on how to make it possible?
Being the greens I highly doubt it.

They never offer any legitimate ideas on how anything they come up with works its all to hard to give logical and realistic solutions because most of them have fried brains from smoking to much weed in their hippy days bludging off the taxpayer.

Wretched · 14-03-2018, 08:32 AM

The Greens are too out of touch with reality.
We all know fossil fuels will not be around for too much longer, we can see it with all the car manufacturers releasing some sort of Hybrid or full EV.
However even they are phasing it in knowing well that is the only way to transition from dead animals fueling cars.

I have no qualms about electric cars (though I still love the sound of a fuel burning car) but I do have an issue with the way agendas are being forced upon people of late. So many things being banned.

atec77 · 14-03-2018, 11:33 AM

""=Bossxr8;6101032]https://www.goauto.com.au/news/gener...-13/70736.html

This would be a complete joke if the morons weren't serious.

Might have to build a few new nuclear power stations to charge up all these EV's

""
There are 20 houses in my little street , the mains feed can handle power need and two possibly three cars charging , obviously the infrastructure to power these cars wont exist outside a test situation for decades so wont happen in my lifetime

CoupeKing · 14-03-2018, 12:02 PM

We'll most likely be on or heading towards Mars by 2030. Next they'll try and ban the Sun.

TER2BO · 14-03-2018, 01:14 PM

In Victoria and Sth Aust. there is hardly enough power to power existing Homes & Factories.
So where is the extra power going to come from ?? Like my Dad said to me , Electric Lawnmowers get their power from yourlawn ! (Yallorn) . Be really green if it wasn't full of fertilizer and weed.
If they really want this to happen they will need to build some Green power stations - like the first comment- nuclear ones.
There is a deep pit down Morwell way not doing anything. Could build one at the bottom, only less than 1klm to hookup to the existing lines. Very, very unlikely to be any problems but if there was just let the Morwell river in to cool it down or flood the pit.
Some additional green power sources are in the pipeline- Solar paint being developed -this may extend range etc.
But what is needed is forethought and planning using many of the currently available resources including LPG.

mick taylor · 14-03-2018, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Roo

If the Greens ever won an Election Out Right. Every one would be out of job. No Transport on the roads. And Australia's Exports in Minerals would be dead. And the Greens would say "How good are we in this country."

The Greens have openly supported Agenda 21 to kill off 90% of the worlds population as well to save mother earth, the Libs and Labour are quite happy to suck up to them.
The Greens are just watermelons, green on the out side and red on the inside.
The Greens cause more problems than you can poke a stick at and they are just bumpkins who truly know bugger all about reality, modern day hippy's high on Political Correctness, bigots who love to play the heavy.

BPXR6T · 14-03-2018, 02:12 PM

Just attention seeking policy to keep them in the headlines. Same **** different day...

Bossxr8 · 14-03-2018, 02:35 PM

The Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries just shot a bunch of holes through this stupid greenie proposal.

https://www.goauto.com.au/news/gener...-14/70772.html

mike_nofx · 14-03-2018, 02:56 PM

Does that mean 100% ethanol powered vehicles would be ok?

dunga · 14-03-2018, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Does that mean 100% ethanol powered vehicles would be ok?

Where do you think ethanol comes from it comes from sugarcane hardly a pollution free process you still need diesel to grow process and transport it. The only thing producing ethanol does is line the pockets of large corporations.