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02-03-2021, 10:57 AM | #1 | ||
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What was the best 4x4 in the 1960's and 1970's and why do you think or as to why.
I would say that the old WW2 Jeep is still the best all out 4x4 ever for the harshest terrain, but I had an argument with a dude in the early 80's as I said that the Overlander wagon would be the best for me in the late 70's or the 1978 5.8L auto 4x4 F100 for a ute. And the 1960's was them V8 auto Jeep wagons over all. Just look at how them big wagon Patrols and all sold in the 80's and on people loved them, but old mate claimed only them old land rovers and Patrols and toe jo were worthy, but why buys such bland as that nowadays. I said yes they were fine in the bush but on the road they were crappy to drive. |
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02-03-2021, 11:10 AM | #2 | ||
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Range Rover, when they were running...
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02-03-2021, 11:35 AM | #3 | ||
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Yes, definitely the Rangie. The only one that didn't drive like a terrible truck.
If you overlook reliability though. |
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02-03-2021, 12:13 PM | #4 | ||
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Definitely the Range Rover. Took Nissan and Toyota 20 years to catch up in terms of chassis and suspension.
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02-03-2021, 12:52 PM | #5 | ||
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For a 4wd wagon? Definitely the Range Rover, I believe Leo Geoghegan drove one and commented that they needed to licence the Range Rover to the japs so they could have some measure of reliability and build quality....
Any doubts.... The Darien gap expedition should remove! https://www.hagerty.com/media/automo...n-gap-history/ http://www.range-rover-classic.com/H...ver-darien-gap For a 4wd ute? depending on how heavy duty you want it, either an F100 or an F350.... |
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02-03-2021, 02:11 PM | #6 | ||
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No contest - the FJ40. It brought reliable and dependable 4WD capability to the masses.
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02-03-2021, 03:25 PM | #7 | ||
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02-03-2021, 03:44 PM | #8 | ||
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I had a 1972 ex army LWB Land Rover with a Holden red motor and Dodge heavy duty clutch back in the 80's.
That was one tough old girl, but driving on the highway was a nightmare.
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02-03-2021, 05:36 PM | #9 | ||
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FJ 45's crap to drive if you arent a midget but virtually bullet proof. Ive never driven an F truck so i cant comment.
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02-03-2021, 07:03 PM | #10 | ||
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Not a car and only 2WD but Ural Motorcycle when actually running or not tipped on its side
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02-03-2021, 07:37 PM | #11 | |||
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02-03-2021, 07:57 PM | #12 | ||
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02-03-2021, 08:22 PM | #13 | ||
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"Ask the Leyland Brothers". It was impressive what they did in the early days with their 4WDs exploring Australia.
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02-03-2021, 08:28 PM | #14 | ||
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I remember my dad bought two Cruiser utes for his earthmoving business in the 60's. I think they were actually imported and distributed by Thiess Bros. The old man rated them very highly and became a Toyota man for life. Whenever I get an early 'Rover fan bragging about early Land Rover reliability I simply ask them how many Landcruisers have they seen with Holden red motors fitted. |
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02-03-2021, 09:27 PM | #16 | ||
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02-03-2021, 09:36 PM | #18 | ||
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Those early cruisers were tough as nails and set the precedent for the massive following Toyota has now. Special mention to the early patrols as well.
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02-03-2021, 09:49 PM | #19 | ||
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Indeed - can drive both rear wheels, connected by a shaft:
https://www.imz-ural.com.au/gearup Did the 1940s one have 2WD? Dunno |
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02-03-2021, 10:38 PM | #21 | ||
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Holden Overlander... But in all seriousness the FJ40.
Jeeps were more of a novelty (like they still are)
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03-03-2021, 09:00 AM | #22 | |||
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This classic NZ ad from 1982, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyHBKX29_Q8 check the last scene with the FJ40. "Well there is one other way you can get in here, and that's it right there"
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03-03-2021, 10:25 AM | #23 | |||
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You know something is truly gutless when a crappy red motor is actually an upgrade on something |
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03-03-2021, 12:05 PM | #24 | ||
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Only got rid of my 82 Hi-lux about three years ago due to a seriously rusty cab.
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03-03-2021, 12:26 PM | #25 | |||
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In Australia what year did the F100 and F250 4x4 become popular, I do not remember them getting about much until about 1977 really when they took off in sales. I remember the 1974 F250 4x4 were about and the earlier 4x4 were about but bugger all were about from what I remember or seen. I think they were a full import and cost must of been to high and that's why the XY 4x4 ute came about I believe. Before that we had another 4x4 Jeep with a Ford 6 cyl in them from new with a 144 and then 170ci and some with a big 200ci I think, they were made in Brisbane Moorooka ? and they were what led to the creation of the Brisbane built XY 4x4 I do believe. Not to mention they still would of made a XA ute 4x4 but the XA with it's long doors being a coupe ute was not as strong as the XY ute design and the XA ute only came out late 1972 Sep 72 I think. I think the XY 4x4 was being made up to Jan 1973. Not to mention to all who know that the XA-B-C were a rust bucket at the best of times. |
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I seen Ford 6 in some but only the XR 200, the 221 had too much torque and the XA 6 was to big to fit in I believe. The 186 was the most respected reliable engine by far and one dude I know had the big 202 in his but they broke axels with all that torque. Back in the day I would have old people boasting that they had the big 6 in their HQ Holden, they claimed that was a lot of power back then I was like what ! but if you had come from a 138 grey to a red 202 well you have to think about that, remember Falcon called the big 170 in the XM-P a 170 Pursuit and the 200 a Super Pursuit up to the XR. |
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03-03-2021, 01:33 PM | #27 | ||
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Here,s one to test your memory Mick.I had a very early Landcruiser which came with a 4 sp gearbox,but only single range transfer case.Around about 1960 the Cruisers came with a 3 sp gearbox and a dual range transfer.
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Plus there was some new ADR's come into effect in 1972 .. IE; collapsible Steering Column, head rests which killed it Off.. |
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03-03-2021, 01:45 PM | #29 | ||
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on a farm i work on in the 1980's. they had an fj with 250 ford motor and a landrover with a 202. they went ok, (on the farm)
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03-03-2021, 01:45 PM | #30 | ||
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Dad had a 3 speed Cruiser. from memory it was an early 70's model..
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