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03-09-2021, 08:46 PM | #1 | ||
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https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-2021-detailed
Brands- 1. Toyota (Up 60.3%) 2. Mazda (Up 10.5%) 3. Kia (Up 12%) 4. Ford (Up 29.8%) 5. Hyundai (Up 10.9%) Models- 1. Hilux (Up 267.3%) 2. Ranger (Up 34.9%) 3. Corolla (Up 143%) 4. Rav4 (Down 34.3%) 5. Prado (Up 452.8%) Ford Numbers - Ford Escape 12 Ford Everest 724 Ford Fiesta 23 Ford Focus 17 Ford Mondeo 0 Ford Mustang 45 Ford Puma 131 Ford Ranger 4X2 350 Ford Ranger 4X4 3,609 Ford Transit Bus 16 Ford Transit Custom 98 Ford Transit Heavy 33 Ford Total 5,058
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03-09-2021, 09:43 PM | #2 | ||
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Nissan Patrol 506. That would have to be there best numbers for a while presumably because there are no Cruisers atm.
Ranger 4x4 still king but Mustang only 45.
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Because they're embarrassing
I don't know why these figures cannot be obtained from the respective State DOT's as they could provide all actual registrations per month. |
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03-09-2021, 11:55 PM | #5 | ||
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Big fall in Mustang sales;
May - 441 June - 437 July - 142 Aug - 45 |
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Production shutdown. Same as poor old Escape / Focus.
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04-09-2021, 11:37 AM | #9 | |||
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The answer is obvious, they screw the most profit from customers on the cheap to produce Thai built product. The wait for those loyal Escape/Focus etc. etc. Customers is because they didn't spend enough but they'll tell you its because of pandemic related shut-downs in specific regions. |
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But,it is absolutely correct.Ranger is the only thing keeping them alive.
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Using your argument then why doesn't Ford ship every available component to the US so they can build every possible F Series which is where they make the most profit globally... |
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Answer(this comes from Mike Costello,motoring journalist)Tesla considers automotive media to be largely beneath it.It barely does any PR, of any sort,think it’s approach is reflective of its leader.Even the EV council cannot get any data.Tesla always says it’s policy is not to share regional sales unless forced.
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I think some people need to understand that VFACTS figures relate to vehicles delivered/registered.
The real story would be in dealerships order write but obviously those numbers won't be seen.
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Yes,totally agree,just making an observation.It is very lucky they have it in their lineup.You can bet when it was being developed,they did not see Ford leaving.They ‘dodged’ a bullet there.
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No it’s not “very lucky”, it has taken a lot of hard work to design and develop a global Product in Australia that is best in class.
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You missing what I am saying.It is very lucky that it is in the current lineup.If they had elected not to develop it,it would have been curtains for them.It was/has been very fortunate.As I alluded to,they dodged a bullet.They have some really good vehicles in their line up,that nobody really seems to want.
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The thing with Toyota,is nearly every vehicle in their line up,can stand up by it self.They do not(or never have) solely relied on one vehicle as Ford does.Again(respectfully) you miss my point.Toyota is in many, ways a lot smarter than Ford has ever been.
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No, you said Ford were very lucky to have Ranger, you’re wrong, |
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Again,they are very fortunate to have Ranger,why do you think they are affectionately known as the Ranger company? Their sales are nothing short of dismal for the rest of the range.It’s just plain facts.Anyhow,we are not going to come together on this debate.Let’s just call it a day.Cheers.
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if anywhere near enough chips for its own production let alone exports. Just saw Ford US sales figures for August, 125k with F Series making up 57k of that. Average transaction price for Ford trucks and SUVs is current US$50,800, Lincoln average transaction price is currently US$58,900. There’s no doubt that the same strategy is being applied to Ford Australia sales, in an absolute clusterfk, the best you can do is maximise profit on limited resources. Last edited by jpd80; 04-09-2021 at 03:16 PM. |
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and if certain vehicles are unobtainable until we’ll into next year, that fact will certainly colour a lot of buyers decisions going forward. |
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holding yards and completing the chip install in infotainment units. Last count, there were 45,000 F Series to be completed and something like 11,000 we’re done last month with all expected to be completed by November. Ford sold 57k F Series in August, that was with a couple of the plants barely running so yeah, they’re hurting and that’s good because it’s the only corporates learn… |
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05-09-2021, 08:54 AM | #29 | ||
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Are they paying the workers whose shifts have been cancelled saw some plants down from 2 nd 3 shifts a day to 1.
Not good for their reputation to burn ward off potential Escape Puma Focus buyers. Not good to just rely on Thai built Everest /Ranger for market share ..eventually in fact soon China will come hunting those two segments. Can Ford survive? They must be burning cash. |
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05-09-2021, 11:44 AM | #30 | ||
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At the end of the day. Current vfacts figures are skewed.. it will settle when the whole semi conductor shortage ends and all manufactures are playing on a level field.. then lets see which brands are in the top 10 and which cars are the real market leaders
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