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29-10-2021, 03:04 PM | #1 | ||
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29-10-2021, 03:17 PM | #2 | ||
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I can see the EV version making sense, but surely Australia isnt the only country that would be keen on RHD?
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29-10-2021, 04:10 PM | #3 | ||
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article say after an absence of 15 years please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that the f 250
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29-10-2021, 04:47 PM | #4 | ||
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These articles must generate a lot of views because they wheel this story out every now and then on a slow news day. I'm not saying it will never happen but I'll believe it when I see it. It was the same with the Nissan Titan. Nothing happened. Also with the Toyota Tundra. Nothing happened.
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29-10-2021, 05:08 PM | #6 | ||
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29-10-2021, 06:01 PM | #7 | ||
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Only done a thread a few months ago on the possibility of Ford going the GM route with factory backed RHD conversions...
Makes perfect sense, people already are happy to pay for 3rd party RHD conversions, Ford can easily undercut prices and offer full factory support. And from what I've seen, the market is increasing for large trucks. Being from a rural area, i see a few big utes. Popular amongst farmers and specifically people involved in the equine industry, these large utes offer a better alternative for 5th wheeling over 79'series Cruisers or vehicles like Iveco Dailys. Of course, quite a few are shiny status symbols however...
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29-10-2021, 07:02 PM | #8 | ||
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29-10-2021, 07:18 PM | #9 | ||
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SCD in Brisbane are apparently converting the F150 soon.
Scroll down on their ausmv sales arm here https://ausmv.com.au/# |
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29-10-2021, 07:40 PM | #10 | ||
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I can understand why they wouldn't bother with an RHD production line but if we can make a factory backed conversion line work for RAM and Silverado surely Ford could do the same? Though it might be a problem even getting LHD trucks here to convert.
Only thing I can think of is the market share. If they all had similar numbers then it would seem obvious that it works but if they start eating into each other what does that do? |
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29-10-2021, 09:09 PM | #11 | ||
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Joshua Dowling is the New Idea of motoring. He just makes sh!t up and has been doing so for years. Having said that, I would seriously consider a factory backed F150.
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29-10-2021, 09:59 PM | #12 | ||
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https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/202...dZE3focro56hUY some photos of what has arrived
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If Ford could have a full compliance and safety converted F150 done for a lot less than the existing 3rd party conversions then why wouldn't you go for market dominance. |
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29-10-2021, 10:29 PM | #14 | |||
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Look at the Camaro. The simple existence of the factory Mustang made the Camaro almost an impossible sell. Less car for more money. Only the GM hardcore were silly enough to pay for one. |
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29-10-2021, 10:39 PM | #15 | |||
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So what I'm saying is if Ford now enter this market how does this affect it? To clarify I'm talking about conversion not factory RHD. If all the trucks sell the same numbers between them all then all good you would think but if they start taking sales from the other at what point does it make them unviable? Ford won't give a **** if they can come in and do that obviously |
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Sub-$100k, they'd have people lining up for them. |
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29-10-2021, 11:07 PM | #17 | ||
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Absolutely they would, if they can bring it here factory RHD. To my surprise, we know the market is here for these trucks.
I was talking about if they were in the conversion business. Maybe I have confused things a bit |
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We are not talking about a full factory RHD but an advantage would be an obvious Ford warranty plus their OZ dealer network could handle servicing which would be a win for the grey nomads. Also it's possible with Fords direct engineering involvement the final cost could substantially undercut the two existing 3rd party models. Quote:
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29-10-2021, 11:49 PM | #19 | ||
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Whatever way they achieve it I think we fully agree it would be good to have the option to get a F truck. I have seen plenty which must have cost a ****ing fortune around here
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If this is to be used as a mule to develop RHD parts, it might be something that needs to use the latest MY22 build for validation Just thinking, Ford moves in mysterious ways that seem strange… |
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30-10-2021, 04:44 PM | #25 | ||
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...and what exactly would Ford Australia engineers be benchmarking an F-150 against in Australia...Rangers..... or locally RHD converted Rams and Chevs?
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30-10-2021, 06:54 PM | #26 | |||
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A couple of things will stop F-150's from coming to Australia as a factory backed effort like RAM and GM-SV. 1. Ranger! Ford will make more profit per unit with Ranger than an F-150 once the conversion cost is factored in. 2. Ranger! RAM and Silverado have no little brothers underneath them, so in a way that has allowed RAM in particular to price the 1500 at a somewhat reasonable price. With Ranger priced into the $80,000+ mark, an F-150 or 250 will not undercut that at all. So question therefore becomes where would Ford position an F-Series in their lineup and is the time and expense in finding a partner to do the conversions, crash testing and certifying them for sale worth the effort.
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31-10-2021, 09:51 AM | #27 | |||
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I agree there is a strong case of "protect what makes you the money" however I also believe that sometimes sacrificing some profit for greater diversification is also wiser, and lets be honest if a buyer decided to go Ram/Silverado over a Ranger then Ford lost any sale and making any money and another brand gets a toe hold with the buyer where they may not come back. |
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31-10-2021, 10:41 AM | #28 | ||
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You can already get F150-F450 here in Australia through a company called Vehicle Development Corporation (VDC) based in Coolaroo here in Melbourne - they sell though Harrison Motoring Group in Melton.
https://vdc.com.au/ Ford won't go for a factory setup, the amount of cars they sell in LHD markets means they don't need to engineer and build it to offer in RHD markets. Which RHD countries would go for it? South Africa, Australia and maybe India. |
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31-10-2021, 12:20 PM | #30 | ||
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Thailand and its bull**** engine capacity tax (that they implemented overnight to kill the Territory in their market post FTA) would see an F150 cost about a bazillion spondoolies
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