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07-11-2021, 07:34 PM | #1 | ||
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This is putting out feelers for the project Territory. Lights to be mounted on a nudge bar.
I can run up to about 30A, or 350W in my circuit, which is wholly independent of factory lighting. The requirement is good long range visibility. It could be a light bar, or LED lamps or incandescent spots. Durability and maybe serviceability are desirable. New is not essential. Fiscal pain would be approaching maximum wattage above, but ideally a good amount less. So - any suggestions on where to look, or what to avoid? |
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07-11-2021, 07:48 PM | #2 | ||
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Narva 71702HID are good value for money if you can get your hands on these on sale.
Nothing beats HID for putting light down range, not overly expensive on ebay at sub $600 for the pair: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/14243199...evt=1&mkcid=28 You may be able to find these cheaper as they come up on sale, I was getting my hands on these cheap a couple years ago when auto electrical suppliers were running sales. I've done 5 or so cars with these particular lights in the past. These are halogen but they're pretty good, also the same price: https://www.fyrlyt.com/product-page/...-12-volt-qty-2 They use a LOT of juice though, its 300W worth of halogen spotlights and at 12V so the current is significant - I used to have these on my Focus You just need to be careful with warm up time of HIDs but if you're regional its probably not an issue. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 07-11-2021 at 07:54 PM. |
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07-11-2021, 08:00 PM | #3 | |||
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Hella Comet 550 they were pretty cheap back then and I never come close to hitting anything, love the side spread! Last edited by slowsnake; 07-11-2021 at 08:05 PM. Reason: Miss named lights, |
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07-11-2021, 08:06 PM | #4 | ||
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Honourable mention for Hella Rallye 4000 Compact, might be a bit hard to find these days but you could probably score a new set for around $300-$400, also had used these on my own car in the past - used to be factory fitment on Regional Vic ambulances.
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07-11-2021, 08:07 PM | #5 | ||
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$600 is around what the car originally cost (it’s probably worth a bit more now) and pretty hard to justify. I imagine that neither of those expensive options come up often secondhand. At least with provenance.
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07-11-2021, 08:10 PM | #6 | |||
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You'll probably be able to score some of these with people 'upgrading' to LED, the 4x4 mob are next level with accessorising their vehicles and they're always changing out things like lights etc. |
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07-11-2021, 08:11 PM | #7 | |||
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Should run under $200 now I paid $120 back then, check ebay. |
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07-11-2021, 08:15 PM | #8 | |||
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07-11-2021, 08:16 PM | #9 | ||
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SS, those ones are not unlike the Cibie driving lights fitted to older Renaults.
And Franco, yes I’m “careful” with what I spend sometimes. |
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07-11-2021, 08:20 PM | #10 | ||
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My advice, make sure that the "U" channel if they sit in one is at least 2 to 3mm thick, and they have a ratchet type adjustment, I took the Bravo on tracks that are not on any maps, over corrugations you could hide a coke can in upright, no worries.
Bullbar fell off once but lights still aligned when bolted back on, if you haven't travelled CB you just do not need straight beam spots, seen lots of folk lay out mucho dollero?....they looked good, but I like stealth, look at Hella, as good a name as Narva, I chose Hella over Narva for price and bracketry! |
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07-11-2021, 08:32 PM | #11 | ||
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07-11-2021, 08:45 PM | #12 | ||
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Super Oscars. Not cheap if bought new, but more than ok.
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07-11-2021, 08:50 PM | #13 | ||
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I was assuming what are called “spread beam” would be the focus I’m looking for.
They would be unlikely to go off road more than a bumpy trail to a campground (remember Euroka Clearing? that sort of place) or a late night arrival to some airBnB cottage/shack. I can’t see my mate pointing for Oodnadatta with his family in the car. Gaso: Bonus points because French. |
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07-11-2021, 08:58 PM | #14 | ||
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07-11-2021, 09:01 PM | #15 | ||
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I buy LED light bars from here https://www.sunyee.com.au/collections/4x4-accessories, way cheaper than any retail place and delivered to your door within a week
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07-11-2021, 09:04 PM | #17 | |||
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07-11-2021, 09:10 PM | #19 | ||
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The Sunyee stuff is quite cheap for new, my apprehension with lower priced LED is both the stories of vendors like Fyrlyt about scatter and also the clear plastics ageing badly.
A true fog, with the hooded globe? |
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07-11-2021, 09:16 PM | #20 | ||
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That'd be my choice, they come up second hand on gumtree, cheap and often, I picked up two pairs and hung them on the old Rally car for under $100.
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07-11-2021, 09:22 PM | #21 | |||
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I have a 20" and a 12" on the front of my ute with a 12" for my reverse light, the truck has 4 x 42", 3 x 24", 2 work lights and a pair of reversing flush mount work type lights on the rear, they all still look great. |
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07-11-2021, 09:35 PM | #22 | ||
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That’s a fair length of time to appraise, thank you.
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07-11-2021, 09:38 PM | #23 | ||
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dont forget your local gumtree or Ebay (select auction and area so you can hopefully pick them up.
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07-11-2021, 10:01 PM | #24 | |||
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Yep, have been doing that; see prior note on “provenance” - not exactly comfortable with buying off a speedy towing company… There seem some decent bargains around. It’s where Faceache might be handy but I won’t subscribe because of the disgraceful corporation that it is. |
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07-11-2021, 10:02 PM | #25 | |||
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I second what Franco says about Hella rallye 4000. A light is only as good as it's reflector & Hella stuff have excellent reflectors.. |
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08-11-2021, 06:44 PM | #26 | ||
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As some have said they don’t make em like they used to quality but not everything is crap….
I used to use hella back in the day then once I the hilux fourby top of the line narva spottys with the pencil driving light drivers side amd wide arch passenger. They were fine for years but them I tried a light bar across my nudge bar. I’ll never go back they are brilliant imo. Top narva one again they are great. Light force is good and many others now for they have become so popular you can buy cheap ones to middle range to quality. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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08-11-2021, 07:25 PM | #27 | ||
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Cheap and good, better light than LEDS as you can keep your eyes open coming up to road signs. Terry aka Tbro |
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08-11-2021, 08:05 PM | #28 | |||
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09-11-2021, 09:09 AM | #29 | ||
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Sorry CB, I missed this. Hooded globe not needed. The vertical lines in the glass made it a nice wide flat beam
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10-11-2021, 12:26 AM | #30 | ||
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For years I used Narva Ultima 225, plain halogen with both spread lens. $299 on special 8 years ago.
Fast forward to a couple months ago, the old ones broke after lots of corrugations on 2 4x4s. I found them for $119 delivered from 4wd extreme in Adelaide. I was skeptical (scam or chinese copy) but took the chance and they are ridgy didge the same as my old ones!!! Stoked!!!!. They are a great halogen light, I like both spread lens as it lights up the immediate road better, still enough distance to travel confidently at 100kph at night. |
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