High series dash cluster

S3SR · 28-03-2006, 09:33 PM

anyways im looking at installing this into my seriers III SR (forte) type and was wondering whether it will be a straight unplug and plug job or bit of tinkering... i wont do alot of tinkering otherwise my neighbours will call the cops as i swear and throw things alot........ twice now!

anyways any help and even installation pics would be appreciated

thanks
richie

Yum-Yum · 28-03-2006, 09:51 PM

G'day man,
you might want to PM Duffman, I think he's already been there and done that with his AU II Forte mate.

Sleeperau · 28-03-2006, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FALCONSR

anyways im looking at installing this into my seriers III SR (forte) type and was wondering whether it will be a straight unplug and plug job or bit of tinkering... i wont do alot of tinkering otherwise my neighbours will call the cops as i swear and throw things alot........ twice now!

anyways any help and even installation pics would be appreciated

thanks
richie

Hit the search button! There are threads on this. Duffman, Moya & LG are the people to speak to.

ClassicAU · 29-03-2006, 10:42 PM

i have been trying to find pics, but i cant. what does a fairmont cluster have on it that a falcon doesnt?

ClassicAU · 29-03-2006, 10:52 PM

i believe i have just answered my own question!

Forte

Fairmont Ghia

and if anyone finds the link to the post on installing it, could you please point me to it, cos i am also interested.

Sleeperau · 29-03-2006, 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=ClassicAU]i believe i have just answered my own question!

The tickford version for your series II is blue with tickford wings & the speedo goes to 240kmph.

XR6-VCT-2000 · 29-03-2006, 11:03 PM

ahhhh, if only the plugs and stuff in ya car were as easy as the usb plugs on a pc huh , plug and play ..lol

GK · 30-03-2006, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClassicAU

i believe i have just answered my own question!

Forte

Fairmont Ghia

and if anyone finds the link to the post on installing it, could you please point me to it, cos i am also interested.

Am I mistaken but is that a series 1 low dash, and a series 2 high dash?

GK

S3SR · 30-03-2006, 01:33 PM

i know what to do, i gotta get the new cluster, loom or wire it myself (get a professional), change the kms reading to mine and thats it oh and some sensors might need changing or adding for the other dials

anyways something to do later i got assignments
thanks for the info guys

ClassicAU · 30-03-2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GK

Am I mistaken but is that a series 1 low dash, and a series 2 high dash?

GK

i am pretty sure i got that from an add for a series 2 on carsales. that and mine looks exactly the same as that pic, and i have a series 2.

chief · 30-03-2006, 01:41 PM

Having a Series III the odometer is stored in the ECU not in the cluster (like previous models). I will be putting one in my wagon for AU Falcon day. The change in speedo from 220 to 240km/h is calibrated in the cluster. There are a few wires you have to change. I have a wiring skematics that LG put up on how to do this mod. Now I just have to find it.

LG · 30-03-2006, 03:11 PM

Facts
The speedo, is calculated by the Cluster.

The odometer is stored in the Cluster. More specifically the eprom.

What you can do:
Series I Cars cannot put in Series II Clusters
Series I Cars can put in High Series SI Clusters
Series II Cars can put in High Series SII/III Clusters

To Swap:
To put a high series cluster in a low series car. You need to do a few things:
- Change some pinouts in the plug
- Add a Oil Pressure Sender (*)
- Put the correct kms on (+)
- Install a Windscreen Washer Bottle with Sensor

Installing the Windscreen Washer Bottle, w/ Sensor is not neccessary, you will just get a low Washer level warning when you start up.

(*) Supposably, low series car's are meant to have an Oil Pressure Switch. This means it either tells the car, that it has pressure or not. An Oil Pressure Sender, is like a sensor, which is how the High Series Cluster's can have a guage. I found out that with my car, that it had an Oil Pressure Sender. My only guess is that AUIIIs got them. So you may need one you may not.

(+) If you are handy with electronics, you can swap the eproms over. The odometer/kms are programmed into the eprom. If you break the eprom, then your only option is to take the Cluster to VDO (or Ford maybe) to install a new eprom and program the eprom to the correct kms. Of course, you will need some proof, and they will charge you for it.

I have a few documents, of the pinouts, that need to be changed. Do a search and you might find them. Otherwise i'll post it up again.

All in all, it's a bit of hassle. If your not intermediate->advanced in electronics. I would pay someone to do it. It's well worth it. The feeling of the dash being much more sportier, and the colour. Not to mention the extra readouts, of Voltage, Oil Pressure, Gear Selection.

Cheers

autickfordfairmont · 30-03-2006, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClassicAU

i believe i have just answered my own question!

Forte

Fairmont Ghia

and if anyone finds the link to the post on installing it, could you please point me to it, cos i am also interested.

My high series cluster in the fairmont has an extra LCD Screen under the speedo that displays the gear selected (May be different in Series II/III and manuals)

Fairmont

Tickford:

Forte:

phildee · 30-03-2006, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClassicAU

Thats what my S2 Fairmont dash looks like.

My car came with a Oil pressure switch not a sender, the gauge sits in exactly the same spot as that picture always, woder if I added a sender if it would work properly?

autickfordfairmont · 30-03-2006, 04:44 PM

so in the bottom LCD it shows gear selection aswell.
Well there you go. Learn something new everyday.

Cheers

**Mechan1k** · 31-03-2006, 05:03 PM

LG ... top info there.
Yes the oil pressure sender is needed from Ford .... and it's a PITA to change as well ... as I have done one .... using jackstands and a creeper ... bastard of a job. Reason I replaced my oil pressure switch on the low series as it was leaking (actually spraying oil everywhere).

The high-series as a sender and is three prong from memory for the gauge to read more info ... the low series is a single pin switch for the dummy light on the dash.

Hope that helps.

**Mechan1k** · 31-03-2006, 05:06 PM

Oh ... anyone out there was a SII low series cluster they don't want ... I need to test to see if my fuel gauge in the cluster is telling porkies or not.

Took my current one out to test ... and found there's only 2 plugs in the back of it ... no way of testing it ... dammit.

Also found it took me 30 minutes to figure out how to take the cluster out ... when in actual fact it's a 1 minute job to do it.

Oh ... just wondering ... I have a blank switch panel to the right of the steering coloumn on the ute .... I was wondering if it was foor boot release and fuel filler release??? Seeing as I have a ute ... I don't require them (has cabling already in the back of the panel though (might be my new fog light switch panel).

howesy · 31-03-2006, 05:36 PM

They only made two oil senders right across the range from the EF onwards. one for the switch and one for the guage setup. I checked the parts catalogue last week.

howesy · 31-03-2006, 09:12 PM

and the part number for the oil sender units accross the range to operate a guage is EF9D290A

mattp · 08-06-2006, 05:01 PM

I know this is an old thread, but maybe someone can help me anyway... If I want to replace my S1 Fairmont cluster with a S1 Tickford cluster, is it a straight swap and will everything work as normal (except obviously the odometer reading)? Any input would be appreciated! Cheers, Matt.

LG · 08-06-2006, 05:13 PM

Hey matt. It should be a straight swap, and yes your right. The odo will be different. You will need to swap over your eproms. Or get a new one installed and get it reprogrammed.

What speed limit was on the AU1 XRs? If it was 220, then you should just be able to swap masks. Or if you want it for the Tickford Wings, get some custom White ones made up? But afaik, it should plug straight in!

Cheers

GK · 08-06-2006, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mechan1k

Also found it took me 30 minutes to figure out how to take the cluster out ... when in actual fact it's a 1 minute job to do it.

Can you give me a blow by blow account of how to do it? 1 minute sounds too good to be true! LOL!

I'm seriously thinking of changing mine over to a Fairmont cluster and I want to be sure I'll be able to do it.

Sssssssshhhhhhhhhh though OK, no one tell the misses! LOL!

She'll notice the difference though when it's done!

GK

sharchar · 06-02-2007, 03:17 AM

could you please send and post pin out changes for swapping clusters thankyou as unable to find pin out.

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Series I Cars can put in High Series SI Clusters

To Swap:
To put a high series cluster in a low series car. You need to do a few things:
- Change some pinouts in the plug
- Add a Oil Pressure Sender (*)
- Put the correct kms on (+)
- Install a Windscreen Washer Bottle with Sensor

Installing the Windscreen Washer Bottle, w/ Sensor is not neccessary, you will just get a low Washer level warning when you start up.

I have a few documents, of the pinouts, that need to be changed. Do a search and you might find them. Otherwise i'll post it up again.

All in all, it's a bit of hassle. If your not intermediate->advanced in electronics. I would pay someone to do it. It's well worth it. The feeling of the dash being much more sportier, and the colour. Not to mention the extra readouts, of Voltage, Oil Pressure, Gear Selection.

Cheers[/QUOTE]