300c or Typhoon

[xfalconz]

I spotted a letter in Motor magazine by someone who currently owns a Typhoon. He had a deposit on a 300c SRT8 subject to the straight line performance figures when they are known. The SRT8 certainly has more power.
From what i gather If the Chrysler is quicker he wants to get rid of the Typhoon and change to the SRT8.
Seems like a big call changing cars just for 0-100 time especially as the Typhoon is such a great allround car.
I wonder if the 300c will be as good, i know the looks are love it or hate it!

[ADSXR8]

Originally Posted by xfalconz

I spotted a letter in Motor magazine by someone who currently owns a Typhoon. He had a deposit on a 300c SRT8 subject to the straight line performance figures when they are known. The SRT8 certainly has more power.
From what i gather If the Chrysler is quicker he wants to get rid of the Typhoon and change to the SRT8.
Seems like a big call changing cars just for 0-100 time especially as the Typhoon is such a great allround car.
I wonder if the 300c will be as good, i know the looks are love it or hate it!

I certainly wont be changing.

Let me think, a 300kw american barge or Typhoon, Australian Performance Car of the Year. Easy choice, And with fuel hitting $1.50 per litre, hopefully very soon he will realise he made a mistake. And the SRT8 will be quiet pricey too.

I am also sure that either Wheels or Motor tested a BF GT, Clubsport R8 and 300C, and the GT smashed them both. Now without starting a war, we ALL know the Typhoon gives the GT/GT-P a pasting......

[Quicklier]

SRT8 should be fast and good value.
If people just want fast, the SRT8 would probably tick more boxes than the 'Phoon.

If he wants a better performace car (stop, turn, blat), I still think the 'Phoon would be a better choice. The Chrysler certainly has the looks and the toys, but I'm not so sure about build quality. Wouldn't want to think too much about insuring the "imported" 300C either. And you'll just look like a tit if you don't put 22 inch dinner plates on as wheels... Not that I like that look, but if you left it stock, you'd be the only one.

[flappist]

russellw has a SRT-8 and is fairly knowlegeable when it comes to FPV performance, he would probably be a good bet for info.

[xfalconz]

Yeah they tested the 300c, HSV and GT (no 0-100) and the GT came up as the best all round package.
Motor reckon by thier 'gut feel' the 300c feels quicker than Typhoon, 0-100 in high 5,s. Dont know what drugs they are on tho coz Typhoon does mid to high 5,s.

[turboute]

A phoon with a flashed ECU will beat it no doubt and that would cost a heap less than upgrading to the crysler.

Personally I would be concerned with a bit more than just Stright line performance to switch cars so quickly (even though the phoon can do 12.9's stock which will be hard to beat) the 300c's have the usual american build quality issues, tiny back seats and if it's anything like the std 300c - no way to turn off the traction control to do skids!!

They do have a very unique lok to them though - which is good because it keeps ford / holden on their toes so they dont start designing bland looking cars. They are also about the only large cars you can chuck 22"' rims on and turn it into a pimp-mobile(lol)

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by flappist

russellw has a SRT-8 and is fairly knowlegeable when it comes to FPV performance, he would probably be a good bet for info.

Im yet to see a thread by him, is there one around? Pics and all the info?

[brodfloyd]

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i read the same letter. It got me sooo angry!!! The guy is dreaming.
The SRT-8 isnt even the same genre performance car as a Typhoon!!! That letter won my W-Anchor award for this month. he should hunt himself down and punch himself in the face for wasting everyones time who read it, the ink in the magazine, and motor is even more stupid for printing it. If he is a member here, read this then end ur own life mate, ur a clown and my 16 year old sister laughed at u.

The typhoon is designed and marketed as a boy-racer type of car for a younger demographic, where as the 300c is executive transport in a hurry (think grange or TL50) aimed squarely at an older more civilised audience.

As for it being faster, hmmmm, wrong again!!!
Typhoon 6 spd auto and in standard trim at the drags are getting 0-400 as low as in 12.9 but more cosistently in the very very low 13.1-2-3 area and according to most is the quickest aus produced factory car. This means nothing as the 300c isnt made here but it does highlight how fast a typhoon is as there is some pretty fast factory cars produced here (HSV/FPV)
300c, yes its a hemi, but its still a very very big car. Yes its powerfull, but its 60kg heavier and less aerodynamic. It has a gearbox that is one gear shorter, and doesnt have significantly more torque. It's more powerful yes, but 20 inch wheels probably arent the best for straight line speed. It breaks the 13 barrier, but come on, i thought only enthusiasts with half a clue bought FPV products, looks like i was wrong.

The same mag has a comparo with the 300c and the GT and senator, the gt is all over them both in most areas. and the gt apparantly slower than the typhoon (although again a completely different type of performance car)

300c is an awesome car, dont get me wrong, but these things are chalk and cheese.

ford F6 typhoon
Engine Straight 6
Engine Location Front , longitudinally mounted
Displacement 3.984 liter / 243.1 cu in
Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Turbo
Gearbox ZF 6 speed auto
Drive Rear wheel drive
Performance figures
Power 367 bhp / 270 KW @ 5250 rpm
Torque 550 Nm / 406 ft lbs @ 2000 rpm
BHP/Liter 92 bhp / liter
weight 1825kg
0-400m low 13

300c SRT

Engine HEMI 90º V 8
Engine Location Front , longitudinally mounted
Displacement 6.059 liter / 369.7 cu in
Valvetrain 2 valves / cylinder, OHV
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
Gearbox A580 5 speed Automatic
Drive Rear wheel drive
Performance figures
Power 425 bhp / 317 KW @ 6000 rpm
Torque 569 Nm / 420 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm
BHP/Liter 70 bhp / liter
weight 1888kg
0-400metre high 13

[xfalconz]

Yeah i gotta admit if i owned a Typhoon theres not many cars id change it for (under $100,000). Ive got a Turbo ute ad id rather that to the SRT but each to their own i guess.
I agree the Typhoon and SRT are in different catagories and not really comprable.

[BlueRaven]

Originally Posted by ADSGTP

I certainly wont be changing.

Let me think, a 300kw american barge or Typhoon, Australian Performance Car of the Year. Easy choice, And with fuel hitting $1.50 per litre, hopefully very soon he will realise he made a mistake. And the SRT8 will be quiet pricey too.

I am also sure that either Wheels or Motor tested a BF GT, Clubsport R8 and 300C, and the GT smashed them both. Now without starting a war, we ALL know the Typhoon gives the GT/GT-P a pasting......

I dare say that if your looking at spending the money to buy a 300C SRT and insure it.....you probably don't care too much about the cost of fuel.

[Aussie_Geo]

[QUOTE=brodfloyd]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The typhoon is designed and marketed as a boy-racer type of car for a younger demographic, where as the 300c is executive transport in a hurry (think grange or TL50) aimed squarely at an older more civilised audience.

Hey Floyd,

I own one of these girls and am old bugger who likes to think he is civilised e

But I have to admit that when I push the "loud Pedal" I do revert and the wrinkles disappear. The Chrysler 300C is a lovely car but does not do it for me.

Peter

[brodfloyd]

[QUOTE=Aussie_Geo]

Originally Posted by brodfloyd

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The typhoon is designed and marketed as a boy-racer type of car for a younger demographic, where as the 300c is executive transport in a hurry (think grange or TL50) aimed squarely at an older more civilised audience.

Hey Floyd,

I own one of these girls and am old bugger who likes to think he is civilised e

But I have to admit that when I push the "loud Pedal" I do revert and the wrinkles disappear. The Chrysler 300C is a lovely car but does not do it for me.

Peter

thats why i said aimed at, not solely bought by.
They are both wonderful vehicles. But i cant see how someone would want to own a 300C after driving a typhoon. But then again, thats why some ppl drive Lada niva's and some drive porches

[XR6turbo]

I know you all are saying that down at the drags the typhoon is getting 12.9's and low 13's, but in the magazines its running mid to high 13's like the SRT. The difference between the SRT8 and the typhoon (Ive driven both, brother owns a BF typhoon, and a mate of mine works at chrysler Jeep) is that the SRT8 doesn't just push u into the seat, it puts pressure on your chest, like nothing else i have ever felt. Yes, the build quality inside isn't the best, But the look of the car on the outside is by far the toughest on the market. If i had the money, i would buy the SRT8, because it is just such an awesome car to drive.

[brodfloyd]

Originally Posted by XR6turbo

I know you all are saying that down at the drags the typhoon is getting 12.9's and low 13's, but in the magazines its running mid to high 13's like the SRT. The difference between the SRT8 and the typhoon (Ive driven both, brother owns a BF typhoon, and a mate of mine works at chrysler Jeep) is that the SRT8 doesn't just push u into the seat, it puts pressure on your chest, like nothing else i have ever felt. Yes, the build quality inside isn't the best, But the look of the car on the outside is by far the toughest on the market. If i had the money, i would buy the SRT8, because it is just such an awesome car to drive.

that post is totally at odds with ur signature given the merrits of this argument. And ur argument here is that even tho its not as fast or as well built, u'd buy one cos it looks tougher. (RICE)

The magazines get different times because they use a V-box and they measure time differently to at the drags. That and somehow they can never seem to drive a ford at its peak, yet all of the HSV's manage to do un-repeatable times in press mules (hmmm, interesting)
and this thread is about some clown giving the impression he is talking about selling his typhoon cos he thinks a 300c is faster and he is waiting for the results to justify this, when clearly its never gonnna happen and he is sullying the name of one of australias best ever cars.

[Redrum]

Comes down to what you are looking for in a car, what you want, what you like, personal preference. Both are semi luxury cars with performance in mind. Both look good, both appear to go good. Had a close look at Russ's Chrysler at Heathcote, looks awesome. But my choice would be the ford. Just for the sort of person I am at the moment, boy racer. Also I love Fords!!! : :

[Iphido]

Difficult call. 300C has a diffrent image to the F6 Typhoon and the HSV and FPV cars.

Pull up with a FPV and its gaint wings etc or a HSV its assumed your either having a mid life crisis or your still driving around like a hoon. With the 300C it looks like your a bit of a Americophile and don't see the point in buying a small european car. 300C has cleaner lines although its got the unique gangster looks, it does make the FPV and HSV's seem over the top marketing things.

As for quicker. I would imagine the typhoon would be quicker around a track or on a tight coastal road. However on the open highway or 1/4 drags the chrysler might be quicker.

If he was that worried about it, couldn't drive into a tuner or back to his dealer and get a edit and then end any argument.

300C has its good points tho. Biggest engine on the market, greatest power, merc parts, diffrent looks, loads of equipment.

[brodfloyd]

[QUOTE=Iphido] As for quicker. I would imagine the typhoon would be quicker around a track or on a tight coastal road. However on the open highway or 1/4 drags the chrysler might be quicker. [QUOTE]

STOP IT!!! Stop even entertaining the possibility that the 300c is faster at the drags or on the highway, with standard cars its not gonna happen ever, ever!!! stop destressing me.

for starters, Look at the torque curve on the typhoon. GAME OVER!!! It will win at the drags every time, every day.

As for on a highway, look at the gearing, look at the fuel consumption and look at the aerodynamics. The typhoon could go harder and faster, because of the suspension you can also chuck in some corners and it will go round them better too. And the typhoon will not have to refuel for longer so it will put in a further gap over the 300c.

However, if u want to get 4 adults down that dragstrip or highway in still a very fast time, in lots of comfort, with lots of legroom. Then get a 300c, thats what its designed for and does an awesome job at it.

[Racecraft]

Some people buy cars by the attitude of the dealer selling them.. Maybe he didn't think FPV looked after him and he got coffee and cake at the Chrysler dealer... Subject to the SRT8 not being a slow poke maybe he is rewarding great service.. There is always more to it than just times

[brodfloyd]

Originally Posted by Racecraft

Some people buy cars by the attitude of the dealer selling them.. Maybe he didn't think FPV looked after him and he got coffee and cake at the Chrysler dealer... Subject to the SRT8 not being a slow poke maybe he is rewarding great service.. There is always more to it than just times

well if that is the case, (which it isnt!!!) then dont write a letter to motor magazine making it sound like its about performance figures then!!! Write a letter to motor about how u think chrysler dealers are better than ford ones and how next time u will closely look at buying a chrysler product.

that way, it saves me coming online to to talk about it, and someone like u coming online to throw some stupid hypothetical.

u can share a lifeboat with the guy who wrote this letter. ur attitude annoys me greatly.

[HEMI POWER]

Originally Posted by xfalconz

I spotted a letter in Motor magazine by someone who currently owns a Typhoon. He had a deposit on a 300c SRT8 subject to the straight line performance figures when they are known. The SRT8 certainly has more power.
From what i gather If the Chrysler is quicker he wants to get rid of the Typhoon and change to the SRT8.
Seems like a big call changing cars just for 0-100 time especially as the Typhoon is such a great allround car.
I wonder if the 300c will be as good, i know the looks are love it or hate it!

Love both marques, the F6 is brilliant but the SRT8 has it all too.For a couple of tenths of the 1/4 is not really relevant.These cars are not 1/4 mile cars anyway.I have yet to test drive a SRT8 but will be doing shortly. :Reverend:

[brodfloyd]

Originally Posted by HEMI POWER

Love both marques, the F6 is brilliant but the SRT8 has it all too.For a couple of tenths of the 1/4 is not really relevant.These cars are not 1/4 mile cars anyway.I have yet to test drive a SRT8 but will be doing shortly. :Reverend:

u may be expecting me to try and cut this reply to peices, but no, this is a plausable logical statement. although i disagree about the couple of tenths bit, these cars appeal to different tastes and some people will not find the performance figures worth worrying about too much. the structure is sound and arguments plausable and non flawed.

[Laminge]

bwhahaahahha

There is no end of amusement and stupidity to keep me smiling all day!

Ployal, pitty your not a DM otherwise you would be able to see an excellent write up by Russ between his gtp and srt8

[xfalconz]

Originally Posted by HEMI POWER

Love both marques, the F6 is brilliant but the SRT8 has it all too.For a couple of tenths of the 1/4 is not really relevant.These cars are not 1/4 mile cars anyway.I have yet to test drive a SRT8 but will be doing shortly. :Reverend:

I reckon anyone who owns either of these cars would definitely place some importance on 1/4 mile times, especially the Typhoon.

[HEMI POWER]

Originally Posted by xfalconz

I reckon anyone who owns either of these cars would definitely place some importance on 1/4 mile times, especially the Typhoon.

Certainly i love the 1/4 it's what magazines thrive on as a good way of expressing the true power figure on the car.But if i was going to buy one of the above i wouldn't worry about one being quicker or faster over the 1/4.The Hemi has a massive array of aftermarket parts in the states you will be amazed what the yanks have for these cars.Both great cars but the GT is better. :

[AnthonyQLD]

Does it matter? If he wants to sell his F6 and get a SRT8 good for him.

[5.4 GT]

There is a guy in mosman (Sydney) that i've seen around who drives a black 300C with big 22" rims, tint and mesh grille. Must have done something to its exhaust too because it sounds impressive. Anyhow I was quite amazed to see that this is only his crappy daily driver... The real performance car is his black Lamborghini Gallardo... Somehow I dont see him changing the 300C for a Typhoon as he's already got his straight line and handling performance fix in the form of a Lambo. Also the typhoon really doesnt have the road presence of the 300C. This is an extreme example but shows that people are buying the 300's for reasons other than performance.

[xfalconz]

Originally Posted by HEMI POWER

Certainly i love the 1/4 it's what magazines thrive on as a good way of expressing the true power figure on the car.But if i was going to buy one of the above i wouldn't worry about one being quicker or faster over the 1/4.The Hemi has a massive array of aftermarket parts in the states you will be amazed what the yanks have for these cars.Both great cars but the GT is better. :

You had to throw the GT into this debate as well!!! You wouldnt be stirring by any chance would you....

[turboute]

[QUOTE=brodfloyd]

Originally Posted by Iphido

However, if u want to get 4 adults down that dragstrip or highway in still a very fast time, in lots of comfort, with lots of legroom. Then get a 300c, thats what its designed for and does an awesome job at it.

300c's are not know for lots of rear legroom, actually they have been reviewed as lacking in it. Front seats are good though. There is a LWB version of it in the US that solves this problem.

[XRchic]

I would have the Typhoon any day over the SRT8. I dont like the look of the SRT8 (yes a chic thing). But also I just love Fords and particularly the Typhoon because (to me) it has balls but class and it is a great Aussie beast... all the good things in one, and to me, very good value for money, especially if you want to mod it.

SRT8 may be appealing for some and so be it.

I heard there was a looooooong wait for delivery, after ordering the Chrysler though, like a year or something!

[stiddy]

My cousin just got a 300C, the car is unreal and certainly no slouch.. having been in a typhoon and then being in this thing (pic below) IF I had a typhoon I would be swapping the keys over to a new 300C right now.
The car is just unbelieveable. From my experiences people - non car enthusiasts mainly- look at a typhoon and see just another Ford (dont hurt me lol), driving in the 300C people snap there necks because they turn there heads so fast to look at it and they will stare until its out of sight.

oh yeah and its on 22's haha