help with lowering

fomoco3628 · 08-10-2006, 09:41 AM

i Want to get my car lowered properly. i got a quote for 1300 for pedders superlows. he said i won't need a caster camber kit. he also didn't say anything about sway bars or anything like that. i've been to heaps of places and they keep saying i need different things or "you don't need this or this". I have sort of an idea of what i need ( shocks, springs, swaybar, caster and camber kit, get guards rolled) I want to do it properly cos i got 19' rims any don't want any tyre wear that can be avoided
So if anyone can make of list of what i need please post it.

CAR: Au II ford falcon with 19" Non-irs wanting to go superlows

cheers sean

The Monty · 08-10-2006, 10:04 AM

Well, I have 17's and needed a camber kit, springs, shocks, struts and thats it. But I dont know about 19's, Ill let someone else deal with that.

TwistedEL · 08-10-2006, 11:38 AM

On this subject, I just received some XR springs in the post. They are going on to my Fairmont. Will I need to replace the shocks and will I need a camber kit?

EvilChief · 08-10-2006, 12:15 PM

1300 for superlows? is that with shocks? and yes u will need camber kit

GK · 08-10-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilChief

1300 for superlows? is that with shocks? and yes u will need camber kit

I hope for that price shocks are included. I would have expected that you would need a camber kit. Many guys here get their guards rolled, but not sure if that's with 19inch rims or because of going lower than XR (King Low) height.

Others will set you straight though I'm sure!

All the best with it.

GK

fomoco3628 · 08-10-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EvilChief

1300 for superlows? is that with shocks? and yes u will need camber kit

yeah with shocks, wheel alignment.

Abacus · 08-10-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedEL

On this subject, I just received some XR springs in the post. They are going on to my Fairmont. Will I need to replace the shocks and will I need a camber kit?

Yes, you will need a camber kit.

Racecraft · 08-10-2006, 06:02 PM

you should also try and track down a set of XR lower control arms for the rear.. They are 20mm longer than the standard ones.. I ran superlows on the factory length arms for nearly 12 months and maybe 5 000 odd kays and my rear bushes were rooted... $450 in bushes and 2 arms to fix the 'rake' angle the diff sits at was quite a surprise considering my car hasn't done 90 000 klms total yet...

GK · 08-10-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecraft

you should also try and track down a set of XR lower control arms for the rear.. They are 20mm longer than the standard ones.. I ran superlows on the factory length arms for nearly 12 months and maybe 5 000 odd kays and my rear bushes were rooted... $450 in bushes and 2 arms to fix the 'rake' angle the diff sits at was quite a surprise considering my car hasn't done 90 000 klms total yet...

Was that with IRS, Racecraft? I wonder if this is a common thing, even with live axle.

GK

Racecraft · 08-10-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GK

Was that with IRS, Racecraft? I wonder if this is a common thing, even with live axle.

GK

Non IRS

I have 3 mechanics that advise me of the state of my car and they are probably more fastidious than most, but when you see the angle the diff sits in relation to the floor you'd understand the extra stresses on the bushes. BY using the slightly longer arms the diff is forced to sit closer to parallel to the floorpan reguardless of the ride height (within reason :P)

Ford Fanatic · 08-10-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecraft

you should also try and track down a set of XR lower control arms for the rear.. They are 20mm longer than the standard ones.. I ran superlows on the factory length arms for nearly 12 months and maybe 5 000 odd kays and my rear bushes were rooted... $450 in bushes and 2 arms to fix the 'rake' angle the diff sits at was quite a surprise considering my car hasn't done 90 000 klms total yet...

Must have ment IRS being and XR, fomoco3628 has solid rear, same as my AUII Fairmont. I have just put in Koni Sports Adjustables front and rear, King SSL in the front and SL in the rear. Camber kit a must. Have also done all the front bushes with Noltec, waiting on the supplier to get the rear bushes in.

Even tho the Faitmont has a small front anti sway bar, between the bushes, shocks and springs the car doesnt roll very much anymore. Mite beef them up just a little. About to fit 18" rims and 6 pot AP front brakes.

Cheers
Dale

The Mighty Red · 08-10-2006, 07:08 PM

I just bought these for the XR on Ebay .......http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

I dont think I will need a camber kit ,but I have been wrong before.

Abacus · 09-10-2006, 12:46 AM

If you have IRS you will need the Ford rear camber kit, as follows:

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Originally Posted by buickman

If the AU has IRS & not a XR & has XR or lowered springs to have it aligned correct you need 2 P/N 5K500ART upper arm camber service kits for the IRS

blackers10 · 09-10-2006, 01:53 AM

i just put SL king springs all round on my S1 Fairlane with IRS and didnt need front or rear camber kits. im running the standard shocks at the moment (when they crap out ill get the better shorter items)
the alignment was done by pedders at Lawnton QLD

i will need a camber kit(which i already have but not installed) in a few months time as i have a castor issue that is making the car pull slightly to the left

i also have a scrubbing issue of the rear tyres (245/35R20) rubbing just where the bumper and body meets on the rear only!!

other than that the alignment is perfect