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06-01-2007, 11:35 AM | #1 | ||
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Fiesta 486 Focus 1516 Falcon 2763 Falcon Ute 1024 Courier 4x2 76 Courier 4x4 122 Ranger 4x2 57 Ranger 4x4 24 Escape 233 Territory 1227 Explorer 6 Fairlane 75 LTD 0 (!!!!!) Holden Barina 920 Tigra 86 Viva 515 Astra 1529 Vectra 30 Monaro 23 Commodore 4888 Ute 994 Commodore 4x4 ute 2 Rodeo 4x2 779 Rodeo 4x4 504 Adventra 147 Captiva 560 Statesman 179 Caprice 254 Toyota Yaris 2213 Corolla 3078 Camry 4cyl 2840 Camry V6 4 Aurion 1494 Rav4 922 Prado 1315 Kluger 345 Landcruiser 694 Hilux 4x2 1249 Hilux 4x4 1554 Mitsubishi 380 806 Total Toyota 17,647 Holden 11,501 Ford 7,869 Locally built Holden 6,487 Ford 5,089 Toyota 4,336 Last edited by RATT; 06-01-2007 at 12:02 PM. |
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06-01-2007, 11:41 AM | #2 | |||
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LTD with 0 is not really surprising. Unfortunate, but not unexpected.
Otherwise the figures look ok. Falcon is still not going as well as I would have liked.
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06-01-2007, 11:53 AM | #3 | ||
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Thanks for posting the results.
Lousy month for locally built cars unfortunately, but I'm sure Holden are happy with their LWB sales, especially with the bias towards Caprice. |
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06-01-2007, 11:54 AM | #4 | ||
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I saw lots of unsold new VEs at the Holden dealers. Would they be included in the Commodore figure? The Corolla and Camry outsold the Falcon. Also it must be the first time in many months that the Prado had outsold the Territory.
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06-01-2007, 12:09 PM | #5 | |||
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Toyota 15,706 Holden 11,410 Ford 7,609 Sorry but it was bugging me LOL Secondly though I wonder just what the people who crunch these numbers are doing about this, do they actually care or are they more worried about getting payed at the end of the week and partying all weekend. I mean Holden outsold Ford on almost every car, the worst being the 4x2 Rodeo outselling the 4x2 Courier by a factor of 10:1 with Commodore by about 2:1 on Falcon, although the Focus did quite well only dropping 13 sales to the Astra. The main reason Territory still does so well against the Adventra is the simple fact that it has a 2WD derivative as opposed to Adventra's AWD only platform, I wonder though if Holden did a cheaper 2WD alternative would the Territory still hold as much ground then. We have all pointed out or at least begun to realise that Fords advertising department leaves much to be desired, that's us, the consumer, if we can see this then why in all there so called wisdom can't these 'gurus' at Ford. I mean they are payed huge salaries to try to understand market trends and hit them early so as to get themselves recognised as a market leader or at the least a prefered product. I honestly think it's time FHQ US came over and did some house cleaning, shake up the place so maybe then these lazy arrsed moochers might actually do what they are being payed to actually do. Yes it's a slow day LOL : Stef
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06-01-2007, 12:56 PM | #6 | |||
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A 2wd Adventra wagon would be pointless imo, as there would be no differences over a normal Commodore wagon, except having Calais trim levels and possibly offering the V8 insetad of that shithouse V6. So even if they did offer a 2wd 'Adventra' (or a Calais wagon), I don't think it would hurt Territory sales. |
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06-01-2007, 01:53 PM | #7 | ||
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how can Holden still have monaros on the list . they havnt been made for 12 mths now??
surely they arnt still hanging around |
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06-01-2007, 03:14 PM | #8 | ||||
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06-01-2007, 03:28 PM | #9 | |||
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Annual sales of locally built sees Ford finish on top. Ford 77,770 Holden 77,136 Toyota 33,652 Mitsubishi 13,065 In 05: Ford 96,898 Holden 96,556 Toyota 39,441 Mitsubishi 16,071 Japanese built in 06: 367,443 In 05: 378,758... Thai built in 06: 103,160 In 05: 84,831 |
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06-01-2007, 04:29 PM | #11 | |||
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06-01-2007, 05:44 PM | #13 | ||
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Very sad times ahead....
Falcon is in trouble, not major though. We will see Orion for certain, but beyond that, unless Ford Aus develop a sustainable export program for Falcon, who knows ??? It's just a shame the new front end looks crap! |
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06-01-2007, 05:57 PM | #14 | |||
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you must be looking at a different falcon to me!! i reakon the BF MK2 front looks good |
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06-01-2007, 07:05 PM | #15 | |||
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What the hell are all the Mitsu dealers doing all day........."playing eye spy!!" |
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06-01-2007, 07:18 PM | #16 | ||
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Are these figures based on whats sold or whats registered?
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06-01-2007, 10:03 PM | #17 | ||
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So...Cheat on sunday sells cars ?????????????????????????
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06-01-2007, 10:10 PM | #18 | ||
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It just shows how poor the knowledge of car buyers have when they purchase cars, when the cr@p Barina outsells the excellent Fiesta almost 2 to 1.
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06-01-2007, 10:21 PM | #19 | |||
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I have a Fiesta and I agree its a ripper little car. But not as good as my Fairmont v8. |
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06-01-2007, 10:46 PM | #20 | ||
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Is it just me or do the mazda bt50 and ford's ranger still look like late 90's designs compared to new navara/rodeo/hilux/triton????. Personally they will be lucky to sell 50 a month. Good to see aurion not doing much but astra and barina tell a sad story of peoples very sad car knoledge when compared to fiesta/focus. Maybe ford can take note on statesman caprice sales that if you build a desirable luxury lwb car they will sell. Christ i've seen more caprices getting around than bf 2's.
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07-01-2007, 02:55 AM | #21 | ||
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How can we write to Ford and complain about the non existant marketing? I mean it is becoming a joke, I never see anything advertised on TV. All I see is Holden, Toyota, Mazda and Hyandai's being advertised. WTF?
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07-01-2007, 03:33 AM | #22 | ||
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They're some sad figures if it wasn't for utes the Falcon would have been out sold by the worst car imaginable.
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07-01-2007, 09:36 AM | #23 | |||
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Monthly sales figures are based on what is registered for that month. So this includes dealer demos, held over fleet sales, etc. If you were to base the figures soley on private purchase only, it would probably paint a very different story, as from what I see, more and more private sales are going Falcons way, but fleets and companys seem to be picking up the Commos. |
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07-01-2007, 09:57 AM | #24 | ||
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A lot of fleet and government purchases are Holdens in SA due to the manufacturer being here and the usual thing of the state supporting its own etc.... All of our police traffic vehicles are Commodores (99% of them) and Im sure that it not the case in Vic. But Holdens would sure count for a lot of fleet and govt buyers overall.
Another thing is that heaps of federal govt agencies which normally bought about a 70/30 Ford and Holden split have abandonded them and are now buying Toyotas, and small ones. Our work fleet has gone from about 30 Falcons and 10 Commodores to 3 Prius and 2 Corollas. Many local governments who used to buy a LOT of Falcons are now going for Camrys and smaller Toyotas. And there are quite a few councils who wouldnt touch Holdens and only a year or so ago had huge fleets of Falcons including XR6 NAs due to their better resale. Now they are all gone. That could account for some of the figures above, if this trend was nationwide to a reasonable degree.
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07-01-2007, 02:21 PM | #26 | ||
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Ford plant has been closed for most of December, i think that might impact on sales slightly!
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07-01-2007, 02:43 PM | #27 | |||
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Not really there was a lot of back stock there, and they still kept shipping. |
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07-01-2007, 02:49 PM | #28 | ||
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The focus is selling very well
Bring back the Mondeo to take on the Vectra, god, 30 sales for the month is shocking |
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07-01-2007, 02:53 PM | #29 | |||
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You can effectively add Falcon + Territory and Commodore + Captiva because all these cars are vying for the same market in the end. You Get Falcon Platform: 3990 sales Commodore + Captiva: 5448 sales |
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07-01-2007, 06:27 PM | #30 | ||
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Hi Ratt,
Do you have any info on the new Mitsubishi 4wd lineup and lancer - how did they fair? |
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